Bonus Episode: 22 Panels Book Club - Heavy Metal November 1978

Matt, Peter, Tad, and Dillon Gilbertson discuss the November 1978 issue of Heavy Metal magazine.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh.

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Tad Eggleston: good evening, everybody! Welcome back to the heavy Metal Book Club on 22 panels. I'm Tad. I got Matt. I got Peter. I got Dylan, and we've got

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Tad Eggleston: the November 1978 issue.

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Tad Eggleston: I have heavy metal in front of us. So how's everybody doing.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm good.

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Tad Eggleston: Good.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I'm doing.

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Tad Eggleston: Than me, I hope.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, I don't. I want to inquire about why you're not doing great. I don't. Wanna I don't.

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Tad Eggleston: Mostly sinuses.

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Dillon Gilbertson: The recorded Podcast, but.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, mostly. Sinuses.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll do.

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Tad Eggleston: Sinuses, allergies, and and like, general malaise at the state of the world. Yeah, there we go.

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Dillon Gilbertson: That sounds about right.

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Dillon Gilbertson: 2 of those 3 should resolve hopefully soon.

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Tad Eggleston: One can hope

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Tad Eggleston: one can hope. My sinuses are triggered by temperature changes. So you know, as long as we keep going back and forth between like 40 and 10.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: I will keep having on sinus issues issues with the tissue.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's that. That's how that's how my,

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Tad Eggleston: that's just how I roll, I guess.

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Tad Eggleston: But yeah, I think I think that I'm way more interested in heavy metal

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Tad Eggleston: kind of dig this cover.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Cool cover I was trying to figure out.

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Tad Eggleston: Hand reaching up.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, what's this? What are these shards of metal next to the hand.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's really not important. It it the image itself is great. It just didn't. I couldn't quite figure out what that was.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, maybe maybe it's this particular.

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Tad Eggleston: I only had no no cause. He does have a his other hand.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And is there?

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I didn't see that.

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Matthew Price: Good! On.

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Tad Eggleston: Just ruin the picture. Point out that it's AI from 1978, and it just added an extra metal arm.

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Matthew Price: Fingers.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, I mean, I mean, the horse's legs does lend credence to that theory.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, but horses are hard.

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Dillon Gilbertson: That's true. We can. We can. We can excuse AI AI to make horses because nobody wants horses and bicycles.

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Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, I.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: What you would.

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Tad Eggleston: Don't know what that is. I had mostly been paying attention to to the face that launched a thousand ships

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Dillon Gilbertson: There you go!

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Tad Eggleston: The bottom corner had been of less interest to me.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.

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Tad Eggleston: But you're right. That that horse is a

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, the head is okay, and everything else is a hot mess, and I have no idea what is coming out of the centurion's shoulder.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe that thing that turns into that metal thing that we were asking about.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that's what I meant.

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Matthew Price: You mean his shield.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Is it a shield? He's got a variety that's a shield.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Okay, yeah, okay, I can see that.

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Matthew Price: Is wonky, because there's more Trojans in that way.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it is a shield.

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Tad Eggleston: And that could be a wooden horse.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it is. That's what I'm saying. Okay, that's right.

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Tad Eggleston: Like a horse. It's a.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, man, Matt! Bringing it all together.

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Tad Eggleston: Matt for the win, like the fact that the inside of the shield.

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Tad Eggleston: the fact that the inside of the shield looks exactly the same as

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Tad Eggleston: the outside of the shield by the.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. Well, also, also the message.

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Tad Eggleston: That.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Also the hair behind the shield you can see through the shield, and so that through it.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, but I think that's just like a notch.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, shield, orange.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm, right? Okay, right?

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Dillon Gilbertson: That's like.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: The top of the shield.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Sorry about that.

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Tad Eggleston: But see, this here is actually part of the shield, whereas I thought it was just

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Tad Eggleston: part of the background. No.

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Dillon Gilbertson: So.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah. And it dawns on me now that those wavy lines in the background are hair and not fire.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, these, yeah.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, though I also thought they were.

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Matthew Price: But it could be, you little fuck.

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Tad Eggleston: So. So I mean, this is like one of those pictures that looks beautiful until you look at it closer, and then it looks really bad until you start thinking about it, and then it's pretty cool again.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It has layers.

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Tad Eggleston: Moving on.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Good, bad, Lasagna.

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Matthew Price: It's got a high School Senior Vibe to it like a High School senior painted it so like it was talented, but not.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I could see that I could see that painted on the gym wall at a high school.

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Tad Eggleston: It's so.

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Tad Eggleston: So, Matt. Have you ever tried, Metaxa?

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Tad Eggleston: I feel like if there was anybody here no, Metaxa, it would be you.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Is mutexa still exist.

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Matthew Price: It would. Yeah. Bye.

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Tad Eggleston: That's a good question. Does Metaxas still exist?

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Dillon Gilbertson: I'm Googling it.

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Tad Eggleston: Me too.

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Matthew Price: I believe.

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Dillon Gilbertson: A bunch of brandy and cognac came up.

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Tad Eggleston: A line of branded Greek alcoholic drinks, each a flavored amber blend.

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Tad Eggleston: This is Wikipedia. Wikipedia comes up top. That's never a good sign.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: It's awesome.

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Tad Eggleston: It was introduced in 1888.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, no, you can buy it a total.

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Dillon Gilbertson: There is a material excellent.

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Tad Eggleston: But I'm still.

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Matthew Price: And it was drunk by gods and warriors and men who can handle.

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Tad Eggleston: Okay.

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Matthew Price: Okay.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, then I gotta bow out if it's for men who can handle it. I don't think I'm I don't think I'm in.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Think I have to.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Are you not Greek enough.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Think I'm not bad enough.

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Matthew Price: That no one ever.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, oh, thank you.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Interesting.

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Tad Eggleston: Still have, like essentially the same bottle that that this one is.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's weird. How many words are capitalized.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's just your

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Dillon Gilbertson: or sometimes as a stinger with a little more sting and stinger is capitalized, drunk by gods and warriors, warriors is capitalized, and men men who is capitalized who can handle it.

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Tad Eggleston: I feel like they've. I'm looking at their website now. And I feel like they've given up on the whole manly thing, because, like they've got a a featured cocktail of an apple to, and they have way way more women in their advertising than men.

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Tad Eggleston: So.

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Matthew Price: Because, yeah, that's what men want to see.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: You mean they might have, like, you know, hired some marketing at some point.

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Matthew Price: Yeah, exactly.

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Tad Eggleston: Apparently at some point it stopped being.

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Matthew Price: About the golf.

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Tad Eggleston: The the the drink of warrior kings.

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Tad Eggleston: though they do have one called the Zeus edition.

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Tad Eggleston: Lightning caught in a bottle.

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Tad Eggleston: Sweet Muscat wine with fine wine distillates and Mediterranean botanicals.

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Tad Eggleston: So yeah, I'm not really a drinker. But

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Tad Eggleston: if anybody else is, they can they can go find out if it's any

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Matthew Price: All right next trip to the liquor. See if I can get some.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't remember anything about these editorials next to this.

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Matthew Price: Oh!

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Bitching about it, and the other one was, oh, I don't know.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I never.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Talking about how they wanted a poster of one of the back covers.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no. I also thought that the the one that that like

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Tad Eggleston: bitched about it also like acknowledged that there was essentially nothing that they could do that would make him stop buying it. So

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Tad Eggleston: it's like.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's not a great. It's not a great argument to to launch.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: It's like, Oh, no, 80%.

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Tad Eggleston: Your magazine is crap, but I'm so Ocd. I have to pick up all the comics on the news.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: So I'll keep getting it, anyway.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: At the end he kind of says that he convinced himself not that he no longer wants to purchase them.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Nothing makes me want to make higher quality things than them telling me they're gonna buy it, no matter what.

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Tad Eggleston: It was. It was Marcus Boas for the cover the Helen of Troy cover, and

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Tad Eggleston: the henceforth talked again about having messed up the order of the pages 2 issues ago.

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Tad Eggleston: And apparently there, there's some minor issue in this one.

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Tad Eggleston: and they're teasing a 12 page Mobius detective story for next issue. Maybe

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Tad Eggleston: we thought about running Gale backwards, but realized no one would notice.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, sounds about right.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's pretty hardy.

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Matthew Price: Here he is!

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Tad Eggleston: And then we go off with Sinbad.

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Matthew Price: Which was awesome this month.

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Tad Eggleston: It was fighting dinosaurs.

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Tad Eggleston: The land of the Jinn is where Sinbad fights the dinosaurs.

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Dillon Gilbertson: What did the dinosaur turn into.

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Tad Eggleston: I thought the dinosaur turned into dead.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: No.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Definitely a bunch of lizards.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Tiny lizards.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's a bunch of little lizards.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, okay.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Head.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean the to fight with Sinbad.

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Dillon Gilbertson: That's fair.

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Tad Eggleston: I guess he is kind of taking a nap up here.

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Tad Eggleston: Is this like a a my arm? You've angered. It will be crushed.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah. He crushed somebody's arm. Didn't the dinosaur didn't lose.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, I thought here, but you're right. It's it's splitting up into little lizards. Yeah, it's raining.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: That's the. It's the work of the genie.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. Okay, when you said turned into dead.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I thought you meant because I think later on, I think it's in Sinbad, like in a few pages. There's like these skeletons riding bats, or something that come after them. And I was like, did the dinosaur turn into those green skeleton guys.

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Tad Eggleston: I do really love this bottom panel on

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Tad Eggleston: with the thing coming at ya.

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Dillon Gilbertson: What with the with the thing.

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Matthew Price: Each of the 2 balls in the string.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: No, he's talking about.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: No, the the like sunset sounds like.

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Matthew Price: When that guy is throwing that weapon

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Matthew Price: couple of pages over. Oh, that's I love it!

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I really like that that image, too, Matt. That might be my favorite image of the

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, they.

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Matthew Price: Because you said sinking it.

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Tad Eggleston: That's pretty good.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, though, he's throwing the bolo at the at the reader.

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Matthew Price: Bolo. Thank you. I couldn't think of the name.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, they're coming at ya.

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Dillon Gilbertson: That's a dope panel that's really cool.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: yeah, yeah. I dig that the skeleton on the bat.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, the sunset's cool right at you.

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Dillon Gilbertson: This is what the dinosaur turned into.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup!

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Tad Eggleston: I don't. I don't think so. I was just confused, as I often am.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean regular listeners know that like for heavy metal. Don't listen to me. My insights are not nearly as good as the rest of yours.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Or is that so?

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Matthew Price: Depends on the issue. Tab.

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Tad Eggleston: Issues, of heavy metal.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I do like the Flying Castle, too. That's nice.

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Tad Eggleston: The Flying Castle was was awesome. It reminded me of way back

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Tad Eggleston: in the beginning of the heavy Metal Book Club, when we were actually reading new issues.

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Tad Eggleston: What was the name of the

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Tad Eggleston: the space story that we all liked?

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Matthew Price: Oh, God! That had the the floating city. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: So.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: No, no, don't, don't give him up too much credit. He really was being a was. He's just.

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Matthew Price: Just selling it. Well, yeah.

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Dillon Gilbertson: This dude with the with the the limp phallus hat, and his cool sunglasses, and his beard.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Someone was saying. They saw that one of one of them move. And they're like, that's impossible.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I mean, essentially what they they were talking about was once the robots got fried. At the same time the old man

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And they go into even further detail and say his

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Dillon Gilbertson: Got up and left. So also it took me until this page to realize that exterminator 17 was human.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Looking at him, I would not have guessed that he was human, and I don't know if it said it in the previous issue.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: It's 1 of the androids. It's not.

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Matthew Price: Go on. Yeah, was the camera.

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Tad Eggleston: Once in a while, I remember shit.

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Matthew Price: The King's DNA.

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Matthew Price: It was exterminator 17, I'm pretty sure.

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Dillon Gilbertson: God! Look at the look at the face! Look at the heads on these dudes! How cool those look! Had this dude's mask and his helmet, and.

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Matthew Price: The art is amazing. I love it.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, it looks like he's been watching a lot of Star Wars.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Probably was. He's the seventies.

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Tad Eggleston: Sand, plan.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I can see that this was right after Star Wars came out right.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, Ryan was pretty cool this issue.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, she was dying slowly from poison, but decided she wanted to die faster.

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Matthew Price: Okay.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Don't we all let me go.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Issue.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. But she realized she was gonna die anyway. So she let these these hairy drones take care of her.

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Matthew Price: I mean I was. I had to go slow and painful or hairy drones. I'm going to airy drones.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Did you pull up.

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Tad Eggleston: Something made him catch on fire.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: That's a good point.

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Matthew Price: And if you could, in spontaneous combustion, that's the best answer.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe it was just the the place was blowing. Oh, that's right. The place was blowing up.

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Tad Eggleston: Right. We're like, Oh, man, which is.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: The blonde girl was like, oh, you need to get into the aircraft in the other room. It's the only way to escape.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, don't. Don't stay with me.

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Tad Eggleston: Yes, I'm hot and naked, but I'm dying, anyway, and this place is about to blow up.

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Tad Eggleston: They'll torch the towers.

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Tad Eggleston: Then we're back to our our great trap.

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Matthew Price: Great trap, more boobs.

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Tad Eggleston: More more boobs.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: More than.

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Tad Eggleston: Definitely lots of boobs.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: The spatial adventures of Mr. White or of M. White. 4th episode.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this has been a weird story.

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Matthew Price: Yes, it has.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yes, it is.

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Tad Eggleston: It started out feeling like a spy story in space. And and it's been

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Matthew Price: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Uphill right?

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Matthew Price: For as good as the art is. I'm amazed how poorly the feet are drawn on page

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Matthew Price: On what page is it.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Perfect.

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Matthew Price: The second, the 1st page of the story after the title card.

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Matthew Price: where she's where the surgery. The operation has begun.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, you mean.

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Tad Eggleston: Here.

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Matthew Price: One over. Yep.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Page.

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Matthew Price: Yup next page bottom left.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Where, for some odd reason, she's like pushing her legs up.

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Matthew Price: Yeah, that's the one.

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Matthew Price: What a blue.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Joke.

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Matthew Price: Yeah, exactly. It's like, everything's great until you look at the feet. It's like you could have just left them.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, I don't know. I feel like her legs are too well lined up.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it could be, yeah.

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Matthew Price: Feet are hard, though feet feet suck to draw.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Even hands.

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Tad Eggleston: And horses.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And horses.

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Matthew Price: Nope out of all of the above. I would pick feet last.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And elephants. That's why you draw them in snakes.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.

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Matthew Price: That's right.

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Tad Eggleston: This guy's got either really weird pants or really big thighs.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yes.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Pants.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh!

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Matthew Price: That there's a thing in a uniform where pants look like that. It's a it's a it's a real thing. It was in.

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Matthew Price: Or part d. Where the guy was.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Made a joke about his pants. He goes

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Peter Eggleston Connor: because, you see his. You see, his bare ass legs. Later in the in the last page of this.

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Dillon Gilbertson: And it still looks weird as shit. Is that what you're telling me?

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Dillon Gilbertson: What is this?

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Dillon Gilbertson: This top right panel.

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Tad Eggleston: She put a gun in his mouth, but then took it out.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: It still isn't the last page of it, though.

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Matthew Price: Yeah. And now, if you

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Matthew Price: if you look at the bottom right panel, we got another life L joke with the wrist of that guy.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, that's a.

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Tad Eggleston: It's tiny hand.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Honestly, his wrist never really looks very good as I look at it, even in the top top right panel. It doesn't look very good.

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Matthew Price: No, the bottom was worse.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: But yeah, there's his legs.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: When he was humping the married woman's well.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: hoping the Mary Wooden and her husband came.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Here you go. I feel like Gale had more words this issue than all of the other gales we've read so far combined.

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Matthew Price: And.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe times 2 or 3. Yeah.

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Matthew Price: Wordy issue.

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Tad Eggleston: We got no double page spreads in gale, but we got a crap ton of words.

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Matthew Price: Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: We got a lot of cool images. But yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Forgot to check out the images due to the port.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I mean they aren't. They aren't.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Grace is always.

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Dillon Gilbertson: But but as far as as Gail and Drea are concerned, like it's, it's in the lower of the art. I think it's not I. There weren't any images on here that I would say are in the running for my favorite pan holder.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Alright! Let me.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Thing.

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Matthew Price: I agree.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And they have really cool images, but.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, they're cool.

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Dillon Gilbertson: It's not on par with what we.

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Tad Eggleston: What's this this hypnotic thing in the middle of this page? Is it? Does it have a purpose? Or did they just need to fill some space.

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Matthew Price: It's a close up of the one dude's face, and but I don't know why.

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Tad Eggleston: Is it.

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Dillon Gilbertson: So what did.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Makes sense.

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Tad Eggleston: No, no, no! The the.

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Matthew Price: Oh, oh, I'm sorry! Oh, different page.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the the like.

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Tad Eggleston: Concentric circles of diamonds.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, what does what what it helps add to, and I don't know if this is a good thing, but it does help add to. It is the confusion of

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Peter Eggleston Connor: where you're supposed to read, and when.

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Tad Eggleston: Yes, yes, it does.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: This whole page is very much a spiral, and then they have those spirally things in the center which.

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Tad Eggleston: And then.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: And it won't seem notice it.

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Tad Eggleston: Major Grubert.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Like the change of in the hermetically sealed garage.

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Tad Eggleston: I like the very sushi or Aragones-esque

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Tad Eggleston: marginal thing complaining about Jerry Cornelius being written so small.

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Matthew Price: Funny. Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, that was good!

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I still don't know what's going on

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Peter Eggleston Connor: other than this guy looks like an ogre.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, apparently, and and like, right after I discovered this elsewhere.

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Tad Eggleston: there are 3 levels of this like world Universe thing with different sets of rules.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, interesting!

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Tad Eggleston: And he was ad-libbing as he went.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah. I already brought that up last last.

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Matthew Price: No.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, we suspected it, but but

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Tad Eggleston: but I managed to go find confirmation.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I thought we confirmed it last time.

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Tad Eggleston: Did we.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I could be wrong. Our listeners might know better than I do.

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Tad Eggleston: I think I had mostly confirmed it, but I thought we were still in the you need to. You need to show that to me. Stage.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, oh, I probably did say that.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: I probably said I. I wanna see that.

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Matthew Price: But verify is that where you're at.

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Tad Eggleston: And I wanna say there's an essay in.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Why do they look like images? I've never seen.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, that's cause. This is this is from the collected airtight garage.

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Tad Eggleston: When it got put out through epic.

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Matthew Price: Epic. That was a long time ago.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: A, C, yeah, I think.

424
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Tad Eggleston: Thought there was an essay in here. Maybe not.

425
00:26:34.370 --> 00:26:44.239
Tad Eggleston: I found an essay quoted somewhere, so I thought I'd pulled up the right comic that the essay was in. But apparently not.

426
00:26:45.030 --> 00:26:46.760
Tad Eggleston: I'll keep working on it.

427
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Peter Eggleston Connor: It's all good.

428
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Matthew Price: No one needs homework.

429
00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:00.649
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, no one needs it.

430
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.499
Peter Eggleston Connor: although I mean we never have it.

431
00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:16.370
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but I have lots of comic related homework. So I feel like, you guys are the ones that should have homework.

432
00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:18.330
Tad Eggleston: If we're gonna have homework.

433
00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:22.599
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm not giving you homework. You're fine.

434
00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:27.160
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm just saying.

435
00:27:28.550 --> 00:27:34.440
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, we've got enough homework right now, with Christmas coming around the corner. You're all good. You don't have any homework.

436
00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:48.289
Tad Eggleston: And we have our return of of our Galactic.

437
00:27:50.260 --> 00:27:51.300
Dillon Gilbertson: Collective, Geographic.

438
00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:51.800
Tad Eggleston: Don't.

439
00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:55.269
Tad Eggleston: I don't know that I was overly impressed with this one.

440
00:27:55.270 --> 00:27:56.665
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I wasn't.

441
00:27:57.280 --> 00:28:05.560
Dillon Gilbertson: It's like the this this lush green world was from what it describes, built on top of a plate.

442
00:28:06.637 --> 00:28:12.482
Dillon Gilbertson: But the creatures that live on it treat it as if it was natural

443
00:28:12.980 --> 00:28:20.669
Dillon Gilbertson: and like it doesn't belong to them. And so like they're really protective of it, and so they don't let anybody go down there and see it.

444
00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:23.759
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I didn't really retain much of the word, for

445
00:28:24.620 --> 00:28:31.529
Peter Eggleston Connor: it was an okay picture. I did like how the creatures that lived here look a little bit like ewoks or not ewoks. Yeah, ewoks.

446
00:28:32.610 --> 00:28:34.059
Dillon Gilbertson: They're kind of ewaki.

447
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.219
Matthew Price: I walka wacka waka.

448
00:28:39.890 --> 00:28:45.339
Peter Eggleston Connor: I confuse them with Jawas again. I'm pretty sure when I was looking at them like those look like Jawas. I'm like.

449
00:28:45.340 --> 00:28:46.060
Dillon Gilbertson: And.

450
00:28:46.060 --> 00:28:46.860
Peter Eggleston Connor: All right.

451
00:28:47.620 --> 00:28:51.660
Tad Eggleston: Does anybody understand off season any better than they did before?

452
00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:53.219
Dillon Gilbertson: No, no.

453
00:28:53.740 --> 00:28:54.380
Matthew Price: And happy to.

454
00:28:54.380 --> 00:28:59.929
Peter Eggleston Connor: Only that some guy went missing. And they're trying to find him and

455
00:28:59.930 --> 00:29:02.480
Peter Eggleston Connor: the last place, he was seen was on the beach

456
00:29:03.300 --> 00:29:09.100
Peter Eggleston Connor: and one of them is actually trying to find them, and the other one is just sort of

457
00:29:09.990 --> 00:29:11.059
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know.

458
00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:15.150
Tad Eggleston: I did love this one page that was not like the others.

459
00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:17.729
Dillon Gilbertson: This wildly different art style. All of a sudden.

460
00:29:17.730 --> 00:29:18.370
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

461
00:29:19.070 --> 00:29:21.719
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like the weather, where, like it's at night.

462
00:29:23.850 --> 00:29:26.440
Tad Eggleston: Initially, I thought another story was starting.

463
00:29:26.700 --> 00:29:27.360
Matthew Price: Team.

464
00:29:30.360 --> 00:29:32.239
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe another story is starting.

465
00:29:33.490 --> 00:29:36.620
Tad Eggleston: But Nope, and still.

466
00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:41.369
Tad Eggleston: and there's an awful lot of people around for it being off season at this resort.

467
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.200
Tad Eggleston: Doesn't really feel off season.

468
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Peter Eggleston Connor: That's something that we've read in previous one I forgot about. I mean, I know that's called off season, but.

469
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.830
Matthew Price: Yeah, this is like the 4th or 5th install.

470
00:29:56.830 --> 00:29:58.920
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is like the 4th installment.

471
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Peter Eggleston Connor: No, I know what I was saying is, did we read that they were at those resort off season?

472
00:30:07.010 --> 00:30:10.960
Tad Eggleston: No, I'm just assuming, because of the title that it's off season.

473
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Peter Eggleston Connor: That's what I was asking just to clarify.

474
00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:15.089
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

475
00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:22.190
Matthew Price: Maybe that's part of the joke. I don't know.

476
00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:27.620
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe, or maybe they're just permanent residents there.

477
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.459
Matthew Price: Yeah, kind of feels that way.

478
00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:39.470
Dillon Gilbertson: Good empire often gave new gods, vibes.

479
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:40.320
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

480
00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:46.880
Matthew Price: I? Yeah, but I I like the way that it's illustrated like a regular story, but

481
00:30:47.470 --> 00:30:53.659
Matthew Price: exaggerated to be more of a comic. But it's not word ballooned like a comic. Necessarily.

482
00:30:53.660 --> 00:30:55.710
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the blue.

483
00:30:55.710 --> 00:30:58.820
Tad Eggleston: The words were often lacking, though, yeah.

484
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Peter Eggleston Connor: I want. I just need to know why Miles O'brien is in this comic, that's all I need to know.

485
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.970
Peter Eggleston Connor: No, seriously, if you look at. What is this page.

486
00:31:09.970 --> 00:31:10.810
Tad Eggleston: Right here.

487
00:31:10.810 --> 00:31:11.430
Peter Eggleston Connor: 3.

488
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.790
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, go to the next page. It looks even better.

489
00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:16.350
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, yeah.

490
00:31:16.350 --> 00:31:19.540
Peter Eggleston Connor: Miles O'brien. Right there, top and center.

491
00:31:19.540 --> 00:31:23.750
Tad Eggleston: Not not just Miles O'brien, because because where was it?

492
00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:27.080
Tad Eggleston: Luke Skywalker.

493
00:31:27.373 --> 00:31:27.959
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, yeah.

494
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.350
Tad Eggleston: From like return of the Jedi

495
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.220
Tad Eggleston: and return. The Jedi hadn't happened yet.

496
00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:33.610
Matthew Price: Correct.

497
00:31:33.610 --> 00:31:35.320
Tad Eggleston: So like.

498
00:31:36.110 --> 00:31:36.720
Peter Eggleston Connor: I read.

499
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:37.559
Tad Eggleston: It was kind of weird.

500
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Peter Eggleston Connor: Miles O'brien.

501
00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:42.369
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much.

502
00:31:42.370 --> 00:31:44.900
Dillon Gilbertson: Lucas Ripped off empire, confirmed.

503
00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:50.310
Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean Howard Chaikin did been on

504
00:31:50.310 --> 00:31:52.439
Tad Eggleston: for some of the Star Wars comics, so I mean.

505
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.460
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. Alright.

506
00:31:54.180 --> 00:31:54.720
Peter Eggleston Connor: How do you

507
00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:02.500
Peter Eggleston Connor: that looks like Luke Skywalker? Yeah, I mean it also, only kind of looks like Miles O'brien. And it's really only that one image.

508
00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:03.779
Matthew Price: With this high rise.

509
00:32:03.780 --> 00:32:08.700
Tad Eggleston: When did Cole Meaney start his acting career?

510
00:32:08.830 --> 00:32:13.130
Tad Eggleston: Because he's not a young guy? He might have been doing stuff by then.

511
00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:15.820
Tad Eggleston: He was born in 53,

512
00:32:19.150 --> 00:32:21.529
Tad Eggleston: so he was 25 by then.

513
00:32:24.450 --> 00:32:26.999
Peter Eggleston Connor: I forgot that he was in con air.

514
00:32:28.730 --> 00:32:30.400
Peter Eggleston Connor: Charles O'brien was in con air.

515
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:31.510
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

516
00:32:36.310 --> 00:32:39.350
Peter Eggleston Connor: All the things I don't remember about Miles O'brien.

517
00:32:41.370 --> 00:32:47.140
Tad Eggleston: I mean Miles O'brien wasn't. But Cole Meaney was. Oh, that's right. He was in hell on wheels, too.

518
00:32:47.700 --> 00:32:50.660
Tad Eggleston: Bunch of episodes of hell on wheels because he played the doctor.

519
00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.940
Tad Eggleston: It was well. No, only an episode of

520
00:33:10.410 --> 00:33:12.159
Tad Eggleston: goes way back.

521
00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:16.740
Tad Eggleston: Yep. He made his 1st TV appearance in 1973.

522
00:33:17.700 --> 00:33:20.309
Peter Eggleston Connor: 5 years, Freddie, on Thursday, playdate.

523
00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:24.869
Tad Eggleston: Cole Minnie, who played played Miles O'brien.

524
00:33:25.530 --> 00:33:30.199
Peter Eggleston Connor: All right. Elsa was in layer cake. I forgot that, too. I knew that though

525
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.089
Peter Eggleston Connor: this has been like 20 plus years since I watched con air, and only

526
00:33:36.300 --> 00:33:41.900
Peter Eggleston Connor: like 10 plus years since I watched liar cake, probably 15.

527
00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:45.199
Tad Eggleston: No, I didn't realize he was in last of the Mohicans.

528
00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:53.010
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I'm not actually sure if I ever watched last more weekend fully.

529
00:33:53.520 --> 00:33:59.349
Tad Eggleston: I think I like him best in the Englishman who went up a hill, but came down a mountain as Morgan the goat.

530
00:34:03.270 --> 00:34:04.360
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's interesting.

531
00:34:05.570 --> 00:34:07.430
Matthew Price: Some impressive credentials right there.

532
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.979
Tad Eggleston: He was also the mayor in mystery, Alaska. He was pretty good at that, too.

533
00:34:14.309 --> 00:34:16.669
Peter Eggleston Connor: I knew I knew him before I started.

534
00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:17.770
Tad Eggleston: Watching, keep space.

535
00:34:17.770 --> 00:34:19.190
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean Miles O'brien.

536
00:34:20.120 --> 00:34:20.870
Tad Eggleston: But.

537
00:34:21.310 --> 00:34:23.529
Peter Eggleston Connor: What's Miles O'brien? During this conference.

538
00:34:24.250 --> 00:34:27.640
Tad Eggleston: I don't know, you know. I don't know.

539
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.489
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, it goes!

540
00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:39.650
Peter Eggleston Connor: I wish I could say I could

541
00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:45.529
Peter Eggleston Connor: point other people in this comic to character references, but

542
00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:50.239
Peter Eggleston Connor: I cannot.

543
00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:03.370
Dillon Gilbertson: It was like the longest story that I've seen in a while. And oh, yeah, it was like 20 pages long.

544
00:35:03.670 --> 00:35:04.410
Matthew Price: Yep.

545
00:35:04.410 --> 00:35:09.250
Peter Eggleston Connor: Holy cow might have that so.

546
00:35:09.250 --> 00:35:09.809
Tad Eggleston: The art was.

547
00:35:09.810 --> 00:35:11.199
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's good. None.

548
00:35:11.200 --> 00:35:13.480
Tad Eggleston: I don't know what I thought of this story, but I liked the art.

549
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.350
Peter Eggleston Connor: Page 67, yeah. 18 pages.

550
00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:22.450
Matthew Price: Out. But I like the way that it's laid out. I like, I like the way the art and story interacts.

551
00:35:22.450 --> 00:35:23.140
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

552
00:35:24.210 --> 00:35:53.340
Dillon Gilbertson: I this this part, this car, this part got on my nerves a little bit. If you go back to that, that one with the eagle like the guy is just asking straightforward questions. He's like, What do you want? And she was like, you wouldn't understand this part of the world that does this thing at this one time. That's not what I was asking. Could you please just answer the question. He just like goes off on a dietrap about something unrelated. And I was like, why are we doing this? Why are you being so dramatic about this.

553
00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:56.420
Tad Eggleston: The art was very good, the writing not so much.

554
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.549
Tad Eggleston: And sometimes the placement of the writing was kind of confusing.

555
00:36:02.540 --> 00:36:05.719
Matthew Price: I just love how the blood spanner, though, is behind the words.

556
00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:06.320
Tad Eggleston: The.

557
00:36:07.406 --> 00:36:07.853
Matthew Price: Yeah.

558
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.409
Tad Eggleston: So, you know.

559
00:36:13.660 --> 00:36:19.099
Tad Eggleston: but the chicken art is very good, and it also looks like he managed to find land of a Calrician too.

560
00:36:19.450 --> 00:36:22.310
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I was just about to say that.

561
00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:24.520
Tad Eggleston: Just way ahead of his time.

562
00:36:33.820 --> 00:36:35.560
Dillon Gilbertson: Is this really Jaykin's work.

563
00:36:36.270 --> 00:36:36.880
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

564
00:36:37.520 --> 00:36:37.880
Matthew Price: And love.

565
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:43.470
Tad Eggleston: This is early. Howard, shaking this. This was.

566
00:36:43.470 --> 00:36:44.100
Dillon Gilbertson: Bad.

567
00:36:44.510 --> 00:36:46.370
Tad Eggleston: Is my favorite story.

568
00:36:46.670 --> 00:36:48.370
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's really cool.

569
00:36:48.490 --> 00:36:54.000
Tad Eggleston: Steve Bessett has done some killer. One page things here.

570
00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:56.709
Matthew Price: No, it's a killer page. I love it.

571
00:36:57.060 --> 00:36:57.760
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

572
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.799
Dillon Gilbertson: Fuzzy ants with human teeth.

573
00:37:01.390 --> 00:37:05.449
Tad Eggleston: Well, and and the severed hand is the bait for the trap.

574
00:37:06.900 --> 00:37:07.500
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.

575
00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:10.179
Dillon Gilbertson: It's really cool. I really like this one.

576
00:37:10.180 --> 00:37:10.690
Matthew Price: Yeah.

577
00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:13.730
Tad Eggleston: Surgical tactics. Just yeah.

578
00:37:14.780 --> 00:37:15.730
Tad Eggleston: And

579
00:37:16.680 --> 00:37:18.830
Dillon Gilbertson: And then there's a bunch of blank pages.

580
00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:20.850
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, and sucked.

581
00:37:23.234 --> 00:37:26.599
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, a bunch of pages. We don't talk about.

582
00:37:26.970 --> 00:37:31.590
Tad Eggleston: Apparently that's the end of it, so we don't have to bother to talk about it again.

583
00:37:32.670 --> 00:37:34.249
Peter Eggleston Connor: Talk about not so dangerous.

584
00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:38.790
Tad Eggleston: Was was interesting.

585
00:37:40.870 --> 00:37:45.030
Tad Eggleston: I don't know that I feel like it delivered on its.

586
00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:52.050
Tad Eggleston: and it's got a long way to go. So you know. I imagine it'll go back and forth some.

587
00:37:56.520 --> 00:38:03.650
Tad Eggleston: But it felt like a little bit of a letdown from Last issue's story.

588
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:12.029
Peter Eggleston Connor: What you didn't like them talking, or having women be scantily glad and get have skeletal faces.

589
00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:20.480
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I just don't feel like, you know. Last last one's story was all about.

590
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:29.110
Tad Eggleston: you know you're you're your assumption that there's no other living.

591
00:38:29.290 --> 00:38:30.839
Matthew Price: Things that are in the universe.

592
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:38.610
Tad Eggleston: Things in the universe has to do with the idea that we'd all kill each other rather than being able to live peacefully.

593
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.220
Tad Eggleston: But that's not the only way to live. And well.

594
00:38:44.420 --> 00:38:48.499
Tad Eggleston: and this is just about like taking volunteers, and

595
00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:52.159
Tad Eggleston: I don't know if it's supposed to be like a

596
00:38:52.570 --> 00:39:01.490
Tad Eggleston: positive or negative statement that it's the drugged out hippies without jobs that joined them rather than anybody else.

597
00:39:02.680 --> 00:39:06.760
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, somebody has like a family that they were supposed to go back to.

598
00:39:07.190 --> 00:39:07.950
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

599
00:39:09.730 --> 00:39:12.869
Tad Eggleston: But there was even a comment about like.

600
00:39:13.620 --> 00:39:15.579
Peter Eggleston Connor: They were essentially the Rejects.

601
00:39:16.790 --> 00:39:21.189
Dillon Gilbertson: Go. Go, go forward 2 pages.

602
00:39:22.450 --> 00:39:27.169
Dillon Gilbertson: Tell me this blue dude second from last panel on the right side.

603
00:39:28.850 --> 00:39:31.039
Dillon Gilbertson: Go down, one down on the far right

604
00:39:31.250 --> 00:39:39.539
Dillon Gilbertson: that that's not the same face and pose as the scared guy on the 1st issue of action. Comics, action Comics number one.

605
00:39:40.270 --> 00:39:40.910
Tad Eggleston: Hmm.

606
00:39:41.160 --> 00:39:43.650
Dillon Gilbertson: Who's running away from Superman smashing the car.

607
00:39:44.300 --> 00:39:46.129
Dillon Gilbertson: I think that's exactly the same.

608
00:39:47.830 --> 00:39:51.199
Tad Eggleston: I also think that it's kind of woody Allenish above him.

609
00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:54.380
Dillon Gilbertson: He's kind of woody. Allen meets Chevy Chase a little bit.

610
00:39:54.380 --> 00:39:55.790
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.

611
00:39:59.240 --> 00:40:02.209
Matthew Price: Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. That is like that guy on the.

612
00:40:02.210 --> 00:40:03.720
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's like the same.

613
00:40:04.950 --> 00:40:07.599
Matthew Price: I didn't even notice that. That's hilarious.

614
00:40:08.180 --> 00:40:10.589
Matthew Price: It's just he's just facing the other direction.

615
00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:29.279
Tad Eggleston: And blue. Don't forget the blue.

616
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.249
Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, well, yeah.

617
00:40:30.250 --> 00:40:30.740
Matthew Price: Of course.

618
00:40:30.740 --> 00:40:32.800
Tad Eggleston: Face, face in the other direction, in blue.

619
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Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, the guy's wearing a blue suit in the action comics number one.

620
00:40:36.930 --> 00:40:38.579
Tad Eggleston: That's true. That's true.

621
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Dillon Gilbertson: So you got that going for you.

622
00:40:42.570 --> 00:40:45.680
Tad Eggleston: I don't know. I was underwhelmed. This issue.

623
00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:47.440
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I was, too.

624
00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:51.619
Peter Eggleston Connor: And I still want to talk about the skeleton face

625
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.890
Peter Eggleston Connor: they could win on page 77. But you know we don't have to.

626
00:40:56.990 --> 00:40:58.449
Tad Eggleston: No, I'm down with that.

627
00:40:58.620 --> 00:40:59.810
Tad Eggleston: Where is.

628
00:41:01.020 --> 00:41:02.690
Dillon Gilbertson: Kellatin feast wow! Man.

629
00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:03.600
Peter Eggleston Connor: There we have.

630
00:41:05.370 --> 00:41:06.880
Dillon Gilbertson: Sort of crypt keepery.

631
00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:08.370
Peter Eggleston Connor: A little bit.

632
00:41:11.770 --> 00:41:17.869
Tad Eggleston: Well, and it's like the alien, essentially saying that the best thing about earth is the female body too.

633
00:41:17.870 --> 00:41:19.269
Dillon Gilbertson: Not the female pain.

634
00:41:19.740 --> 00:41:20.530
Tad Eggleston: Right.

635
00:41:20.530 --> 00:41:21.630
Dillon Gilbertson: It's the party.

636
00:41:21.630 --> 00:41:22.880
Matthew Price: Absolutely.

637
00:41:23.250 --> 00:41:30.729
Tad Eggleston: Is he trying to put some some alien, and therefore more attractive face on it? I don't know.

638
00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:33.139
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, maybe.

639
00:41:35.630 --> 00:41:36.810
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe that's it.

640
00:41:37.540 --> 00:41:44.319
Tad Eggleston: It does have slightly closer to like his features only with human skin.

641
00:41:44.520 --> 00:41:45.290
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.

642
00:41:45.680 --> 00:41:47.339
Tad Eggleston: And without the fins.

643
00:41:48.060 --> 00:41:50.329
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe he's trying to become her.

644
00:41:50.700 --> 00:41:53.330
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe this is gonna become silence of the lambs.

645
00:41:59.870 --> 00:42:03.100
Tad Eggleston: There is a definite focus here, and it's deep.

646
00:42:03.350 --> 00:42:07.490
Tad Eggleston: much deeper than anything I've ever come across before.

647
00:42:10.550 --> 00:42:11.370
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.

648
00:42:11.610 --> 00:42:16.549
Peter Eggleston Connor: the other thing is, I think this episode was short, or this issue was shorter than most. This is only like.

649
00:42:16.550 --> 00:42:18.469
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it felt really short. I mean, we've.

650
00:42:18.470 --> 00:42:18.980
Tad Eggleston: I.

651
00:42:18.980 --> 00:42:21.450
Dillon Gilbertson: It's been less than an hour, and we're already through it.

652
00:42:21.980 --> 00:42:22.730
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

653
00:42:22.730 --> 00:42:23.070
Matthew Price: Yep.

654
00:42:23.070 --> 00:42:28.109
Tad Eggleston: 82 pages, and I don't know that I think there were 18 pages of

655
00:42:28.930 --> 00:42:36.319
Tad Eggleston: what I don't know is, I don't remember seeing as many ads. So maybe this copy had the ads.

656
00:42:37.350 --> 00:42:37.730
Dillon Gilbertson: Upscale.

657
00:42:38.020 --> 00:42:38.650
Tad Eggleston: Account.

658
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:41.630
Matthew Price: Could be.

659
00:42:42.110 --> 00:42:42.990
Peter Eggleston Connor: There'll be.

660
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.839
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's true there weren't so many ads this time.

661
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:53.069
Tad Eggleston: I could see the difference being the ads.

662
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.549
Tad Eggleston: but also that, like

663
00:43:02.870 --> 00:43:05.790
Tad Eggleston: 20, some odd pages was Empire, that

664
00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:13.910
Tad Eggleston: even though it was a prose story didn't have quite as much going on as a

665
00:43:14.370 --> 00:43:19.160
Tad Eggleston: most prose stories wind up having going on, so you kind of just fly through it.

666
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:25.899
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I mean, it's not really a the pro story that we're used to where you actually have pro.

667
00:43:25.900 --> 00:43:26.570
Tad Eggleston: Right.

668
00:43:26.950 --> 00:43:29.959
Peter Eggleston Connor: No, and like only one picture, right?

669
00:43:30.500 --> 00:43:31.110
Tad Eggleston: Right.

670
00:43:31.110 --> 00:43:36.090
Peter Eggleston Connor: I did just remember that there wasn't any pro historian us other than Empire.

671
00:43:36.750 --> 00:43:42.000
Peter Eggleston Connor: If you want to consider that a pro, so it still feels a little bit like a comic to me, but I could be wrong.

672
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.469
Tad Eggleston: It does, but I think at the beginning it said it was an excerpt from

673
00:43:50.830 --> 00:43:54.149
Tad Eggleston: yeah. Chicken Delaney Empire book excerpt.

674
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.749
Tad Eggleston: which we had planned to run in December got bumped forward to this edition.

675
00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:04.900
Tad Eggleston: So

676
00:44:10.170 --> 00:44:12.549
Tad Eggleston: all right, let's talk some favorites.

677
00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:18.700
Tad Eggleston: I don't feel like pushing this to to push it. I feel like this.

678
00:44:19.430 --> 00:44:24.820
Tad Eggleston: This episode or this issue, was underwhelming, and nobody has convinced me otherwise.

679
00:44:24.820 --> 00:44:25.550
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

680
00:44:26.530 --> 00:44:34.580
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I really can't. Can't say that there's much I could do convince you. I mean, I did did like Empire. I don't know.

681
00:44:35.490 --> 00:44:42.079
Peter Eggleston Connor: We consider that comic or not, I mean, I can tell you my favorite image right off the back, but.

682
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:47.349
Tad Eggleston: Well, you want to start with your favorite panel, or do you want to start with your favorite ongoing.

683
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:53.000
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'll start with my favorite panel. I'm I'm all about that Bolo being thrown at you.

684
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.909
Matthew Price: Yeah, I think, like.

685
00:44:56.350 --> 00:45:00.189
Tad Eggleston: The more I think about it, the more that is my winner, too.

686
00:45:03.110 --> 00:45:04.610
Peter Eggleston Connor: And we get 3.

687
00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:14.230
Peter Eggleston Connor: Matt Dylan, what are your favorites?

688
00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:16.723
Matthew Price: What? Sorry, what's what's the 1st category.

689
00:45:17.080 --> 00:45:21.579
Tad Eggleston: We're starting with panels this time, just because that Bolo's so so awesome.

690
00:45:21.580 --> 00:45:24.039
Dillon Gilbertson: I'm going with the ball. Bolo panel. Yeah.

691
00:45:24.180 --> 00:45:25.790
Matthew Price: That's fucking. Amazing.

692
00:45:26.460 --> 00:45:27.280
Peter Eggleston Connor: Are we all?

693
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:27.899
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'll go in.

694
00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:29.280
Tad Eggleston: The polo.

695
00:45:31.350 --> 00:45:33.530
Peter Eggleston Connor: This is why we started with panel.

696
00:45:35.220 --> 00:45:37.860
Peter Eggleston Connor: Okay, we don't have to do anything else. We've done.

697
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.259
Tad Eggleston: Sweep on the panel.

698
00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:41.080
Matthew Price: Yep.

699
00:45:41.690 --> 00:45:47.383
Tad Eggleston: Is, that is, that is, that a Testament to how good the panel is, or or how.

700
00:45:47.700 --> 00:45:48.700
Dillon Gilbertson: Overwhelming the rest.

701
00:45:48.700 --> 00:45:50.050
Tad Eggleston: The issue was.

702
00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:51.459
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I don't know.

703
00:45:51.460 --> 00:45:53.340
Peter Eggleston Connor: I do not know, and cannot.

704
00:45:53.340 --> 00:45:58.719
Tad Eggleston: That none of us are even. Oh, if you pick that, I'm gonna see! I'm gonna go with this.

705
00:45:58.720 --> 00:45:59.360
Dillon Gilbertson: So.

706
00:45:59.550 --> 00:46:00.210
Peter Eggleston Connor: No.

707
00:46:00.530 --> 00:46:01.759
Matthew Price: A close second.

708
00:46:02.290 --> 00:46:04.749
Dillon Gilbertson: See unanimous Bolo panel.

709
00:46:04.750 --> 00:46:05.390
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

710
00:46:05.390 --> 00:46:08.309
Matthew Price: Unanimous Bolo hashtag unanimous Bolo.

711
00:46:08.310 --> 00:46:11.030
Tad Eggleston: Unanimous Boho.

712
00:46:11.030 --> 00:46:16.020
Peter Eggleston Connor: For me the the best ongoing kind of by default is Sinbad.

713
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:17.380
Matthew Price: Yup! It is.

714
00:46:17.380 --> 00:46:23.150
Tad Eggleston: Not because it was even a great great chapter, but because.

715
00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:24.900
Matthew Price: It's better than everything else.

716
00:46:25.070 --> 00:46:32.160
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, I guess airtight garage almost has an argument for it.

717
00:46:33.080 --> 00:46:39.460
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm gonna say, episode or an exterminator, some team.

718
00:46:39.950 --> 00:46:43.389
Tad Eggleston: Orion. Maybe I could see an argument for Orion.

719
00:46:43.520 --> 00:46:44.140
Dillon Gilbertson: I'm going.

720
00:46:44.140 --> 00:46:45.720
Dillon Gilbertson: Terminator, 17.

721
00:46:45.720 --> 00:46:47.650
Tad Eggleston: You're going. Exterminator. 17.

722
00:46:47.650 --> 00:46:48.550
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.

723
00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:57.449
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think, like all of the things are currently ongoing, there's nothing that was just like a single issue thing.

724
00:46:58.470 --> 00:46:59.120
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, there is.

725
00:46:59.120 --> 00:47:00.620
Tad Eggleston: It's a single issue. One page.

726
00:47:00.620 --> 00:47:01.160
Matthew Price: Okay.

727
00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:03.619
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, because that's my winner, too.

728
00:47:03.620 --> 00:47:04.030
Peter Eggleston Connor: No.

729
00:47:04.030 --> 00:47:05.600
Tad Eggleston: Like far and away.

730
00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:18.669
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I might go with Exterminator 17 right now. It's the one that's got me most intrigued like, I really, I like Sinbad like right now. It's really good, too, but.

731
00:47:19.060 --> 00:47:19.870
Matthew Price: I'm sticking with.

732
00:47:19.870 --> 00:47:27.410
Tad Eggleston: Well, and and I I am nowhere near giving up on so beautiful, so dangerous.

733
00:47:28.090 --> 00:47:32.450
Tad Eggleston: I just was underwhelmed by this chapter.

734
00:47:32.450 --> 00:47:32.920
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean.

735
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:34.730
Tad Eggleston: Curious as going.

736
00:47:34.730 --> 00:47:40.610
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's the point is the best of like what's in this issue. Not not that we're.

737
00:47:40.610 --> 00:47:42.610
Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, you know.

738
00:47:43.130 --> 00:47:45.900
Peter Eggleston Connor: If it was more than 2 pages.

739
00:47:46.810 --> 00:47:49.609
Tad Eggleston: Airtight garage could. A.

740
00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:56.729
Tad Eggleston: Because I kind of felt like we were starting to maybe find out what was going on.

741
00:47:57.600 --> 00:48:00.850
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, hopefully, we get more of that in the mix up soon.

742
00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:02.020
Tad Eggleston: Oh!

743
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:05.360
Tad Eggleston: But.

744
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:06.669
Peter Eggleston Connor: That is my hope.

745
00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:11.880
Tad Eggleston: Surgical tactics for me, though, is totally yeah.

746
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:13.030
Tad Eggleston: Story.

747
00:48:13.380 --> 00:48:17.140
Peter Eggleston Connor: Might have to say that, too. But part of that is just

748
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.169
Peter Eggleston Connor: like most of these are ongoing right like.

749
00:48:20.430 --> 00:48:21.040
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

750
00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:34.889
Tad Eggleston: You can choose an ongoing as your favorite story. We've even occasionally had people decide that this is my favorite story in the book, but I don't like the ongoing enough to have it. Also be my favorite ongoing.

751
00:48:35.570 --> 00:48:41.360
Tad Eggleston: Or, yeah, I mean, that's fine, like, I'm not saying it's not. I just right.

752
00:48:44.660 --> 00:48:45.980
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know.

753
00:48:45.980 --> 00:48:50.039
Tad Eggleston: Or a way to split the baby when they're just 2 stories that you like a lot.

754
00:48:52.230 --> 00:48:53.120
Peter Eggleston Connor: Right.

755
00:48:53.390 --> 00:48:56.950
Peter Eggleston Connor: No, I don't know. It's just underwhelming, as we said.

756
00:48:57.610 --> 00:48:58.290
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

757
00:49:00.870 --> 00:49:01.835
Peter Eggleston Connor: Underwhelming

758
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:03.779
Tad Eggleston: That Dylan.

759
00:49:04.650 --> 00:49:08.390
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm still gonna go with surgical. I'll follow you with surgical tactics for

760
00:49:08.540 --> 00:49:11.400
Peter Eggleston Connor: story. I think Dylan already thought surgical tactics.

761
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:12.460
Dillon Gilbertson: Surgical. Yeah.

762
00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:16.339
Tad Eggleston: Matt, are we gonna have another sweep.

763
00:49:18.450 --> 00:49:19.679
Matthew Price: Favorite story.

764
00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:20.670
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

765
00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:21.820
Matthew Price: Hi!

766
00:49:22.030 --> 00:49:23.490
Matthew Price: I'm gonna stick with Sinbad.

767
00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:24.650
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.

768
00:49:28.870 --> 00:49:31.009
Tad Eggleston: We almost had 2 sweeps there.

769
00:49:32.690 --> 00:49:33.470
Peter Eggleston Connor: Almost.

770
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.730
Tad Eggleston: So let's take a look.

771
00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:39.560
Peter Eggleston Connor: No matter what.

772
00:49:39.560 --> 00:49:42.229
Tad Eggleston: That's it. The back cover is pretty cool.

773
00:49:42.560 --> 00:49:44.520
Tad Eggleston: I do dig the back cover.

774
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:45.350
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

775
00:49:46.035 --> 00:49:46.410
Matthew Price: Okay.

776
00:49:48.610 --> 00:49:52.350
Tad Eggleston: Hmm, okay, yeah, that's September of 79.

777
00:49:52.890 --> 00:49:57.350
Matthew Price: So that's not actually the next issue. Where's our next issue?

778
00:49:58.115 --> 00:49:58.880
Matthew Price: 12.

779
00:50:03.460 --> 00:50:04.589
Tad Eggleston: There we go!

780
00:50:04.600 --> 00:50:06.820
Tad Eggleston: Here's December 78.

781
00:50:06.820 --> 00:50:08.289
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, this fucking guy.

782
00:50:08.470 --> 00:50:10.160
Peter Eggleston Connor: That is epic.

783
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.350
Tad Eggleston: I? I am digging that cover.

784
00:50:14.520 --> 00:50:19.170
Tad Eggleston: Who's got the cover, Peter Jones? I don't even know who Peter Jones is.

785
00:50:19.900 --> 00:50:21.379
Dillon Gilbertson: Brother of Dick Jones.

786
00:50:23.930 --> 00:50:26.279
Tad Eggleston: Got a copy of a couple of Mobius.

787
00:50:28.560 --> 00:50:35.199
Tad Eggleston: some more orions, some more exterminators, some nor gay gale, some more off season.

788
00:50:36.590 --> 00:50:39.359
Tad Eggleston: some Paul Kirchner and Ben Catcher.

789
00:50:42.850 --> 00:50:46.449
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, she's the garage now for for Mobius.

790
00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:57.619
Tad Eggleston: It changes, and also there's there's apparently they ran in. Jerry. Cornelius was a Michael Moorcock character.

791
00:50:57.820 --> 00:50:58.290
Dillon Gilbertson: This is.

792
00:50:58.290 --> 00:51:06.850
Tad Eggleston: So they ran into some, no issues, copyright stuff.

793
00:51:08.120 --> 00:51:08.519
Peter Eggleston Connor: They do?

794
00:51:08.520 --> 00:51:12.380
Tad Eggleston: The Mobius crime story already looks cool, though.

795
00:51:15.540 --> 00:51:16.629
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go!

796
00:51:18.100 --> 00:51:20.289
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

797
00:51:23.500 --> 00:51:25.300
Dillon Gilbertson: Exquisite corpses.

798
00:51:26.020 --> 00:51:27.710
Tad Eggleston: Also looks cool.

799
00:51:29.090 --> 00:51:31.630
Matthew Price: It looks like chrome. For a second. There.

800
00:51:35.970 --> 00:51:38.810
Tad Eggleston: That's some solid Orion, too.

801
00:51:40.590 --> 00:51:44.589
Tad Eggleston: Exterminator. Seventeen's art continues to be fantastic.

802
00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:50.270
Dillon Gilbertson: It's long.

803
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.329
Tad Eggleston: Look at that gale!

804
00:51:52.330 --> 00:51:53.579
Tad Eggleston: Oh, like that!

805
00:51:54.130 --> 00:51:54.680
Tad Eggleston: Page!

806
00:51:54.950 --> 00:51:57.289
Peter Eggleston Connor: That reminds me of like old Arams.

807
00:51:58.290 --> 00:52:00.319
Dillon Gilbertson: Another double page spread. Oh, that's fine!

808
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:01.450
Tad Eggleston: Couple of them.

809
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:07.350
Tad Eggleston: And will we find out what's happening in off season?

810
00:52:08.170 --> 00:52:08.990
Tad Eggleston: No.

811
00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:12.570
Peter Eggleston Connor: Why would we find out what's happening in Austin?

812
00:52:13.190 --> 00:52:16.400
Tad Eggleston: I don't know Terro looks kinda cool.

813
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:17.510
Dillon Gilbertson: Cool. Yeah.

814
00:52:22.190 --> 00:52:23.890
Dillon Gilbertson: yeah, I could be into Tarot.

815
00:52:25.530 --> 00:52:29.579
Tad Eggleston: So it definitely looks like next month is gonna.

816
00:52:29.580 --> 00:52:30.100
Matthew Price: Yeah. Good.

817
00:52:30.100 --> 00:52:30.870
Peter Eggleston Connor: Why?

818
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:32.780
Tad Eggleston: Gonna like.

819
00:52:32.780 --> 00:52:33.680
Peter Eggleston Connor: Woman was.

820
00:52:33.680 --> 00:52:37.110
Tad Eggleston: Still only 2 2 pages of airtight.

821
00:52:37.830 --> 00:52:44.230
Tad Eggleston: This is pretty cool, too. The colored light and frequent electrical fires attract a certain primitive animal.

822
00:52:44.230 --> 00:52:45.299
Dillon Gilbertson: What the fuck is going.

823
00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:48.780
Tad Eggleston: That was only one page, and then so beautiful, so dangerous.

824
00:52:48.780 --> 00:52:53.700
Dillon Gilbertson: The weird, naked mole, Rad, mat, mole, Mole, man rat at the Eaton Lights.

825
00:52:56.490 --> 00:53:00.049
Tad Eggleston: Development of an intergalactic corporation.

826
00:53:01.940 --> 00:53:03.346
Tad Eggleston: Really wordy.

827
00:53:04.050 --> 00:53:04.730
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

828
00:53:06.630 --> 00:53:08.980
Tad Eggleston: See where it goes. Yeah. So next.

829
00:53:08.980 --> 00:53:09.330
Dillon Gilbertson: When you.

830
00:53:09.330 --> 00:53:18.010
Tad Eggleston: Issue seems to have a lot going for it at a glance.

831
00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:19.590
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

832
00:53:19.590 --> 00:53:21.019
Matthew Price: The covers, tits.

833
00:53:21.680 --> 00:53:23.050
Tad Eggleston: But both covers.

834
00:53:23.520 --> 00:53:30.050
Tad Eggleston: Both covers are fantastic. So December, 1978, for

835
00:53:30.390 --> 00:53:36.220
Tad Eggleston: early January, unless we want to try to cram it in over Christmas

836
00:53:36.380 --> 00:53:40.349
Tad Eggleston: and be on the same month, years and years separate.

837
00:53:40.370 --> 00:53:41.849
Tad Eggleston: That's up to you guys.

838
00:53:43.990 --> 00:53:45.490
Peter Eggleston Connor: Double this number.

839
00:53:46.300 --> 00:53:46.790
Tad Eggleston: But.

840
00:53:47.085 --> 00:53:47.380
Dillon Gilbertson: Yes.

841
00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:49.220
Peter Eggleston Connor: Double December.

842
00:53:50.030 --> 00:53:54.060
Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, December is one of the few months where I have more time.

843
00:53:54.990 --> 00:53:58.819
Peter Eggleston Connor: I didn't say I was opposed. I was just calling it a double December.

844
00:53:59.030 --> 00:54:00.589
Dillon Gilbertson: I look at my schedule.

845
00:54:00.590 --> 00:54:02.200
Matthew Price: I love those double D's.

846
00:54:08.700 --> 00:54:10.470
Tad Eggleston: Oh, Matt!

847
00:54:10.930 --> 00:54:12.989
Matthew Price: Double d's not.

848
00:54:19.420 --> 00:54:21.720
Tad Eggleston: Well, anybody got anything else.

849
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Matthew Price: Yes.

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Tad Eggleston: All back metal or lot and heavy metal.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yes, sir, I also bought a whole bunch of their back issues.

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Tad Eggleston: Did you.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: No.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no. We'll

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Matthew Price: Terrific.

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Tad Eggleston: Definitely have to do those when they come out.

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Tad Eggleston: and I look forward to the fact that we'll have new stuff to mix with the old stuff.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: That will be nice compared to just continuously reading old stuff and.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but it's old stuff we haven't read before. That's true.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Stuff we haven't read before. No, I agree with that.

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Tad Eggleston: That's true, but I maintain that even as good as heavy metal is, it continues to

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Tad Eggleston: support my theory that that the bar for average gets higher. Every generation.

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Matthew Price: Oh, sure!

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, that's pretty pretty accurate on lots of things.

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Tad Eggleston: The best of the best.

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Tad Eggleston: you know still stands out. You know the the best now is not necessarily better than the best then.

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Tad Eggleston: but the bar for average seems to get higher.

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Matthew Price: Agreed. I don't know, I personally think, and this is controversial, but I don't think if Jack Kirby tried to break into the comic scene today. He would make it in.

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Tad Eggleston: I think he'd have to slow down

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Tad Eggleston: and do less work, but better.

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Tad Eggleston: I think his best work would would still fly.

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Tad Eggleston: particularly page layouts. He does great page layouts, does great storytelling.

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Matthew Price: Have you read the.

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Tad Eggleston: But I agree.

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Matthew Price: Bye.

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Tad Eggleston: What?

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Matthew Price: Have you read the eternals?

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Tad Eggleston: I didn't. Didn't say he's a good writer.

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Matthew Price: I'm choosing.

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Tad Eggleston: I I honestly, I think that that

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Tad Eggleston: you know, except nobody would do it because it feels like blasphemy. My hunch is you could take anything that he

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Tad Eggleston: wrote. Andrew, strip away the words.

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Tad Eggleston: use them as just a mild guide, and write a new script with the same pictures, and make an infinitely better comic.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Isn't, isn't this? This is only tangentially related. But I think RAM V is doing a reboot of new gods.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, my God, this is gonna be so fucking good! I'm.

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Tad Eggleston: I'm looking forward to it.

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Tad Eggleston: And, for that matter, Chris Cantwell's doing challengers of the unknown.

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Tad Eggleston: Just another Kirby.

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Tad Eggleston: So

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Tad Eggleston: you know, for that matter, commandee is probably the the thing that he did that was best on its own. But then you go look at the commandee challenge, and they took it to another level.

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Matthew Price: Yeah, we did.

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Tad Eggleston: You know. Look at what Tom King did with Mr. Miracle, which is probably the second best thing he did on his own.

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Dillon Gilbertson: That's great. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: You know he is.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean one of the the reason that Lee Kirby made such a good pair is like they did complement each other.

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Matthew Price: And.

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Tad Eggleston: The reason they didn't.

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Tad Eggleston: The reason they had so much trouble was they they had very clashing egos, so you know.

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Tad Eggleston: Lee needed to add too much.

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Tad Eggleston: you know. I mean almost any time when the writing is bad, when Lee's doing it is because he's overwriting it.

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Tad Eggleston: you know. It's like dude. The pictures are there, just dial it back.

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Matthew Price: You know his dialogues normally pretty good, except when he starts having the people talk about what they're doing.

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Tad Eggleston: Which just

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Tad Eggleston: I hate it enough when there's like exposition balloons talking about what people are doing. But when you have the characters talking about what they're doing.

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Tad Eggleston: It's pretty rare.

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Tad Eggleston: No, that's not how a fight works.

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Matthew Price: 4.

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Tad Eggleston: It's not how a fight works. People don't say. Now I'm going to use my Karate shop.

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Matthew Price: Yep.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, it is. I wanna broadcast every move I'm doing before I do it.

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Matthew Price: Well, don't get ready for my super. Kick.

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Tad Eggleston: Right, right.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Let me!

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Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna say, I'm even with the city

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Tad Eggleston: kick, and I'm going to give you the punch.

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Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, I mean.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Just don't block it or counter it, or anything like that.

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Tad Eggleston: I think also, comics goes through stages.

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Tad Eggleston: particularly when they're doing separate stuff of how much they're willing to have a separation of labor.

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Tad Eggleston: They're absolutely great cartoonists that write and draw on their own. And and I understand the arguments that those are the best, because it's a unified vision. But I also will counter with. There are teams that I think are way greater than the sum of their parts.

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Matthew Price: Parts, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Having the multiple visions is what elevates it.

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Tad Eggleston: because you have somebody who's an exceptional writer and somebody who's an exceptional visual storyteller, and sometimes somebody who's an exceptional color, you know, and and they all wind up

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Tad Eggleston: adding something different that becomes much bigger. And I feel like like the early heavy metal is kind of

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Tad Eggleston: in that era where, as much as possible artists were just supposed to do everything.

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Tad Eggleston: There are a handful of things where there's a writer and an artist.

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Tad Eggleston: But most of it's all just an artist. It's hard to tell how much of it is not colored

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Tad Eggleston: for money reasons. Roosh's wasn't supposed to be colored.

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Matthew Price: Yup!

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Tad Eggleston: Which makes the inking weird, because.

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Tad Eggleston: like, particularly with some people like Mobius, Mobius doesn't do a heavy ink because he he defines a lot with his color when he's doing color.

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Matthew Price: Yeah, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: This song.

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Tad Eggleston: That'll be something interesting to watch, as as you know, over the years. As we move forward with heavy metal, seeing how

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Tad Eggleston: changing changes in, in printing capabilities and and cost of production, wind up, changing

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Tad Eggleston: the quality of the stories we get, just because they can deliver the vision.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.

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Tad Eggleston: So anybody else got anything.

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Dillon Gilbertson: The last thing I'll say is that I can buy Metax a 5 star at a total one and more. That's right down the road.

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Tad Eggleston: Hey? Hey?

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. No. Problem.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I'm probably gonna buy it and try it before our next episode.

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Matthew Price: That was a dynamite.

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Tad Eggleston: There we go!

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Peter Eggleston Connor: For our next one? Or is this like you should try to add a next one. Tell us.

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Dillon Gilbertson: I'll try it at the next one. I'll buy it and save it.

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Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe I'll have to see if I remember to buy some too.

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Tad Eggleston: And you guys can all get your Metaxa. And suddenly I'll seem like the one that's not crazy.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.

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Matthew Price: Exactly instead of the other way around.

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Dillon Gilbertson: Good call.

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Tad Eggleston: Matt, you want to take us out.

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Matthew Price: We will continue after the next page.