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Bonus Episode: 22 Panels Book Club - Love and Rockets - The In-Between Years pt. 1

22 Panels Season 4

Maria, Marisol, and Tad begin discussion of the years between Love and Rockets volumes one and two.

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Tad Eggleston: Good afternoon, everybody. Good morning in Australia. Welcome back to the 22 panels, love and Rockets. Book Club.

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Tad Eggleston: I've got Maria. I've got Marisol. We don't have actual love and rockets to read, because we're in what I'm calling the in-between years. So so this stuff was originally published in Monelli and Luba and Luba and her family, and I think a couple other comics in there. But we're just going to read it out of the

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Tad Eggleston: compendiums, because that's just

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Tad Eggleston: way easier until we get to love and rockets. Volume 2. So do we want to start with Jaime, or do we want to start with

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Tad Eggleston: with Gilbert today, because it's it's even easier to decide where to start, because we have to go to different books, not different parts of the same book.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, I'm happy to start out of the way. Yeah, gonna do.

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Maria Pena: Oh, let's just do. Whoa, Nelly, I'll make a decision.

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Marisol: Whoa, Nelly, there was I, miss? Yeah.

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Maria Pena: That sounds good to me.

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Tad Eggleston: And what we're essentially doing is actually, it was published in the woe. Nelly, issue one in in

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Tad Eggleston: July of 1996.

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Tad Eggleston: So yeah.

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Maria Pena: It's too late. The Gabor Sisters.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it'sy and bitsy.

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Maria Pena: Yes.

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Marisol: I I like this page. It was so good

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Marisol: I do. It's the it's the see, all the different, restless.

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Tad Eggleston: Meet all the characters, except that you're not really meeting all of the characters, because most of these people aren't people that we'll spend any time with.

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Maria Pena: Except for Vicky.

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Marisol: Like the veterans. Page.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Marisol: You see right, Rena and Vicki here, too.

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Tad Eggleston: Right, right.

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Maria Pena: Retainer, not Rena was a peanut girl.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Marisol: Right.

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Maria Pena: Yeah. Well, yeah. Bravo, they're great.

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Marisol: Very, very muscled up. 19 forties, spin-up style.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Maria Pena: I can imagine Jaime looking at

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Maria Pena: magazines, or whatever of of female wrestlers, and loving the you know the the pictures I

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Maria Pena: like. Obviously his. His inspiration must be some kind of.

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Marisol: Wrestling magazines, or something.

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Tad Eggleston: I love Gina and Joe.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: They're just so fun together. I love how much they're friends, and then they try to be mean because they're pitted against each other.

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Tad Eggleston: They sometimes break character.

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Tad Eggleston: You could see the grin here and the grin there.

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Maria Pena: And it's kind of emphasized.

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Marisol: So they're having fun with it, though.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: The fact that it's a you know. It's a bit of a performance. There.

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Tad Eggleston: And I love. I mean, we were talking about a bit off air, you know Jaime's mastery of character, and and the way he can draw

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Tad Eggleston: such different shapes and such different positions, and always have it look like it's dead on right.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Marisol: And he.

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Maria Pena: You know his consistency, and you know you can tell show, even if she's upside down, or, you know, getting body slammed.

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Maria Pena: And Gina, and they have different. So it's got a body shape for both of them.

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Maria Pena: Regina's got wide hair, hips and stuff, and.

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Marisol: Interesting.

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Maria Pena: Color and show it small and and round out.

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Maria Pena: and just the way he consistently keeps his drawings to on model. It's just

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Maria Pena: it's really difficult to do, and he does it really massively.

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Marisol: Yeah, no, the consistency is admirable.

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Marisol: So that seems like it would be one of the hardest things to do. Like as issues keep going.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Marisol: Especially if you're doing all the stuff by hand.

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Marisol: A lot of work.

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Marisol: Heck!

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Maria Pena: Yes, it is.

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Tad Eggleston: And it's also so weird to see Vicky in a skirt suit.

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Marisol: Right.

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Maria Pena: Short hair.

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Marisol: In this case like that's not Vicki.

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Tad Eggleston: No.

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Marisol: Oh, that's not Mickey!

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Maria Pena: And.

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Tad Eggleston: And that that like devilish grin, and she's telling them to hate each other.

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Tad Eggleston: And they're just like, okay.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, they have.

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Marisol: Thank you.

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Maria Pena: The charade going the charade.

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Maria Pena: You know of the the wrestling.

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Maria Pena: I love that guy with the Hawaiian shirt and the hair. Yeah, but you see it.

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Maria Pena: It's just

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Maria Pena: oh, he reminds me of

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Maria Pena: of the chimney. To be honest.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: Or so this character, and then there's some great.

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Marisol: Yeah, and then.

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Maria Pena: For sleeping steps.

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Tad Eggleston: So did you?

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Tad Eggleston: Did Joe win, or did Gina throw it?

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Tad Eggleston: That's my question.

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Tad Eggleston: Gina insists that Joe Joe is just on fire.

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Maria Pena: Oh!

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Tad Eggleston: But what.

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Marisol: I think, Jean, that's on your back.

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Tad Eggleston: You think she threw it.

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Marisol: I think she threw them at.

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Marisol: because, like everyone like Vicki and them have been open up Gina's talent, and we've seen her fight.

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Maria Pena: The.

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Tad Eggleston: Only reason, I wonder.

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Tad Eggleston: is if she did. She's doing a way better job of acting than she did the last time.

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Maria Pena: No, yeah, but they're all smiles at the like later on. You know that. So it is all

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Maria Pena: acting. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: But in their last fight they both have smiles at various times in this fight.

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Tad Eggleston: Only Zhoe does.

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Tad Eggleston: Gina Gina looks in pain.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, in like every frame, I mean she's massaging her arm at the end like.

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Maria Pena: You were holding back. Gina, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: So.

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Maria Pena: So. Yeah, Vicky, Glory is pissed off because she didn't.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, of course, because now she's got a.

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Maria Pena: Was.

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Tad Eggleston: Fight her niece.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Marisol: Yeah. And Vicki did not hold back.

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Marisol: Oh, no! Oh, no, no, no!

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Marisol: But it's.

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Maria Pena: Teaching her a lesson like it is so.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Maria Pena: So.

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Tad Eggleston: And when did they get rid of the suit? And I mean this, this page was a little weird to me. Top. They still have the leather jacket and and the shirt and vest on, and the very next panel they're gone.

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Maria Pena: No, no, because that's before the fight, you know, when they're still kind of. And then Vicky's kind of gone for her before, like I think she's gonna.

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Tad Eggleston: Before the bell even rang. Okay, I see how.

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Maria Pena: Maybe oh.

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Maria Pena: or sometimes I guess sometimes they start, and they might throw the jackets off, or whatever they might start with, with more layers you know as well.

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Tad Eggleston: Do not think I would want to be swung around by my hair.

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Maria Pena: Know.

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Marisol: Oh, God, no! That sounds atrocious!

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Maria Pena: Oh, boy!

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Marisol: Look at her. She is full.

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Maria Pena: It's really big one.

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Marisol: Oh!

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Maria Pena: Their arms, and so

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Maria Pena: They believe.

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Marisol: I'm amazed. Saul didn't lose any hair.

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Tad Eggleston: And.

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Maria Pena: But like.

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Tad Eggleston: Feel like they're kind.

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Maria Pena: Throughout.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I feel like they're very kind not to give us the second after this bottom panel.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.

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Marisol: Oh, yeah, cause you know, you know.

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Tad Eggleston: Doesn't feel like anything good is about to happen. There.

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Marisol: No, whatever was gonna be next that had to be brutal.

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Tad Eggleston: Right, and and like enough, this one, the the I like oof.

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Marisol: How.

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Maria Pena: I'm sure that move has.

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Marisol: I don't know.

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Maria Pena: Name, like.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, that's 1 way to crack it back.

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Marisol: Oh, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean.

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Marisol: Vicious.

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Tad Eggleston: Maybe this is just like a fancy massage.

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Tad Eggleston: She's loosening up all of her muscles.

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Maria Pena: Or or elbowing her in the kidneys.

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Tad Eggleston: Tearing them off. Maybe.

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Maria Pena: And there's the classic. But.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, through the other thing.

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Tad Eggleston: Of them.

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Maria Pena: Great great stuff. She's really pubbling. Show. There, that's it!

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Tad Eggleston: This is one of my favorite.

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Tad Eggleston: Hello, though.

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Maria Pena: That's a great battle, Gina, carrying Scholager.

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Tad Eggleston: And and and show's not angry or upset. She's just yeah. I think we gave them their money's worth.

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Maria Pena: Don't ever wrestle felony again. We got that angry.

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Tad Eggleston: Is, the conversation with her son is so hilarious.

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Marisol: It is hurricane.

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Tad Eggleston: Isn't the the bad guy supposed to lose?

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, why'd you beat the good guy.

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Maria Pena: Well, well, do you?

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Maria Pena: Yeah. Ricky was meant to be the bad guy.

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Tad Eggleston: You were the good guy against Tiavicki. Why, why did you lose? And why were they booing you.

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Maria Pena: And at the end of the day he still doesn't get it.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Maria Pena: And then show and gina gonna tech team against these little ladies.

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Tad Eggleston: They're such fangirls, too.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Were your opponents tonight unworthy opponents, I might add, we know

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Tad Eggleston: it's so perfect to go from that to to bing bing! And just like the chair to the bed

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Tad Eggleston: back in there, and.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, see, they're they're fighting with their jackets. I bet the jackets come up later.

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Maria Pena: Cause it's just part of the you know, when they get they they heat up

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Maria Pena: the jackets come off.

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Maria Pena: So yeah, see, the Jaggers are off now.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: This is some convention from wrestling that we don't know. But yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: I love this.

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Maria Pena: With all, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: This spiral here to indicate that her head is ringing.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Marisol: Oh, yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: At least I feel like that's what it's supposed to indicate.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, it's like, like the vertigo graphics.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Maria Pena: Right.

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Marisol: So.

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Maria Pena: The movie vertical, I mean, not not the comics.

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Maria Pena: And then we got a a little history.

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Tad Eggleston: And then the quick flashback.

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Maria Pena: Show.

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Tad Eggleston: Right was her babysitter.

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Maria Pena: And Gina.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. And Gina moved away, but then came back when she was 15, to say, Remember, we were going to wrestle together.

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Tad Eggleston: Then they lied about her age.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Marisol: So how much younger than so is Gina.

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Tad Eggleston: I would guess at least 10 years.

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Maria Pena: No, not necessarily.

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Maria Pena: You think.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, because this looks like.

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Maria Pena: I mean she could have been 50.

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Tad Eggleston: She was 13.

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Maria Pena: She was 13. Okay? And Gina.

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Marisol: Started babysitting them. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: And Gina was the oldest.

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Maria Pena: And then.

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Tad Eggleston: Kids, but she doesn't look like she's more than 5. So maybe 8 years.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: she's 13. Yeah, okay, yeah, it goes to.

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Tad Eggleston: I like the tooth was.

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Tad Eggleston: She might actually be 6, because she's missing the middle teeth. You generally don't.

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Marisol: Losing.

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Tad Eggleston: Your teeth in kindergarten is surely like 1st and second grade, that you're losing all your.

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Tad Eggleston: Which I think is against the rules, but they don't seem to be. I've also noticed the few times that I've ever watched tag team wrestling that whatever rules there might be about you're supposed to like tag out and switch and whatnot, it really doesn't work that way. Might as well.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh!

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Maria Pena: Got the actual issue somewhere.

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Tad Eggleston: I honestly think that this.

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Maria Pena: Yeah. Okay, the. The end of the issue was the 2 ladies.

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Marisol: Oh, okay.

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Maria Pena: The beginning of the fight with the 2 already actually.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, the beginning of the fight with the 2 old ladies.

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Marisol: Yeah, let me just turn it.

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Maria Pena: Oh, sorry. Yeah, there, let's see it as well.

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Marisol: And the rest is kicked.

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Tad Eggleston: Getting there?

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Maria Pena: Speaking there. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: You're talking about them being inspirational and then getting their asses kicked.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Oh, yeah, I mean, Jaime's had some wrestling

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Tad Eggleston: It's like they're wrestling in a dark room.

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Maria Pena: Well, it's you know. I think it's just design, you know. You don't want to distract

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Tad Eggleston: What I meant.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, there are just a couple.

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Maria Pena: The the credit doesn't matter.

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Tad Eggleston: This one right here, you get the crowd.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the beginning of the Vicky match.

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Tad Eggleston: Actually, that's funny. The Vicky match it looks like all of them have crowd and or white.

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Maria Pena: It's like a daytime daytime.

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Marisol: Oh!

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Maria Pena: Match, I guess, or something.

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Tad Eggleston: Whereas the other 2 matches it's like they're in a

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Maria Pena: And it looks so good.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: You know.

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Marisol: I don't like it that way, though.

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Tad Eggleston: I do, too, on the market side.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, I literally just noticed that that. Oh, wow! It's just a black background outside the ropes.

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Marisol: Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: So good.

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Maria Pena: So see that that back, that that history of the 2 girls. That's where the next

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Maria Pena: Well, this, how come? Yeah, yeah, that's the beginning of the next issue.

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Marisol: Oh!

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Maria Pena: Funnily enough. That's funny, that page those 2 pages.

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Marisol: Okay.

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Maria Pena: Are before the the the start of the fight with the 2 ladies.

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Marisol: Hmm.

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Maria Pena: The match with the old ladies.

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Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.

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Maria Pena: Yeah. Oh, that it's back to front on there, isn't it? It's the other way around.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there's 2 pages of bite here and then.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, that's it.

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Tad Eggleston: The 2 pages of Flashback, and then back to the fight.

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Maria Pena: Oh, I see here, I think he's added. They've added. He's added page extra pages.

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Tad Eggleston: They? They have been known to do that.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Marisol: Okay.

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Tad Eggleston: And and Jaime drawing more wrestling.

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Tad Eggleston: No, I can't imagine that that doesn't. That doesn't feel like Jaime.

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Marisol: No way.

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Tad Eggleston: So yeah, so many, so much good stuff, so much good stuff.

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Marisol: Yeah, he's got an extra page.

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Maria Pena: Alright!

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Tad Eggleston: There is my Luba.

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Tad Eggleston: There we go.

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Tad Eggleston: So the parts we're reading here, I think, came from

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Tad Eggleston: So we might have to read some comics dementia at some point just to get some of those

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Tad Eggleston: But okay, here here we got to to 1st meet the the Dora Leash show.

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Tad Eggleston: Have we had any of these show.

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Maria Pena: Drawn in 2,000. No.

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Marisol: We had some of it in a different issue after she started working with people.

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Maria Pena: But.

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Tad Eggleston: What?

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Maria Pena: No, there was something. Yeah, we we yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Just barely started and.

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Marisol: In our last.

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Maria Pena: So this was drawn in 2,001, though.

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Tad Eggleston: Oh, well, this this is probably his, his addition, then, to this.

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Marisol: Because I know that this is part of.

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Tad Eggleston: And the Venus from.

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Maria Pena: And this one here world of Venus is 2,011.

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Okay. So he completely reordered stuff.

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Maria Pena: Yeah. And then, and then we get through letters from Venus, which is around the era that we're reading, which is 95.

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Tad Eggleston: Right?

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I didn't beto just not making it easy for us that that's what he knows.

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Marisol: Not allowed.

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Maria Pena: So I read both.

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Maria Pena: Yeah, I do love.

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Tad Eggleston: The comic shop.

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Maria Pena: Maybe.

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Tad Eggleston: The shit those 2.

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Marisol: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: That guy in the garment shop.

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Maria Pena: He's a real person, isn't he? He's based on someone who.

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Tad Eggleston: Is he?

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Maria Pena: Existed. Yeah, I've seen him before

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Maria Pena: He's based on someone, is it William Gaines, or someone publisher? Alright founder of something a famous.

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Tad Eggleston: Let me.

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Marisol: Value.

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Tad Eggleston: I don't know if I'd go. Gaines Gaines had a much bigger beard.

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Maria Pena: And by this time was already an older man, because Gaines was Ec. And mad magazine.

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Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, of course.

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Maria Pena: But he looks. He looks like he's based on a real person in a.

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Tad Eggleston: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are at least somewhat based on real people.

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Maria Pena: Hmm, so which which story shall we discuss today?

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, I thought we were gonna go in the beginning until right before the new Venus.

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Maria Pena: Okay.

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Maria Pena: Alright, let's go there.

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Tad Eggleston: We've got letters from Venus.

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Tad Eggleston: We've got.

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Maria Pena: The release of show.

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Tad Eggleston: Frankentine's grave, whatever they wound up, calling that world of Venus. Yeah.

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Maria Pena: Okay.

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Tad Eggleston: I do kind of like that. This PIN up essentially of Venus playing with dolls of her family.

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Maria Pena: All the all, the all the characters. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Marisol: All the people she interacts with, because we also see some of her friends and the comic book guy in there.

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Tad Eggleston: Right.

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Maria Pena: All right, Dora. Lisa's show. Shall we.

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Tad Eggleston: I wonder if some of this was

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Maria Pena: Oh, at least.

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Tad Eggleston: Here, there, there'll be more later.

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Marisol: For now it's all about Venus.

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Tad Eggleston: This this 1st day.

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Tad Eggleston: It's time for El Short.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean, it'd be. Another interesting question at some point

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Marisol: Their trades. Yeah.

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Tad Eggleston: The other. The other trade paperbacks tend to be more

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Maria Pena: But the trades. There's stuff, added.

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Tad Eggleston: I mean. I almost wonder if this 2,011 story was added for the for the library edition.

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Marisol: Oh!

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Maria Pena: Hmm.

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Marisol: Good question.

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Maria Pena: Could have been.

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Maria Pena: I mean, it's very random.

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Maria Pena: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: You know the world of Venus right?

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Tad Eggleston: Einstein's grave.

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Maria Pena: And the weird baby, the

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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

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Maria Pena: That was really fucking weird.

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Tad Eggleston: Weird baby and the weird old lady telling her.

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Tad Eggleston: I love, I love the nut thought here.

445
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:15.329
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, what is that is that it's like, I don't understand what she's saying.

446
00:29:15.330 --> 00:29:15.720
Tad Eggleston: And.

447
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:22.950
Maria Pena: Little brain is working the weird baby with the uncle fester eyes.

448
00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:25.650
Tad Eggleston: Who flies to get figs.

449
00:29:26.570 --> 00:29:27.490
Maria Pena: Yeah.

450
00:29:28.870 --> 00:29:31.050
Maria Pena: Very fucking. Weird.

451
00:29:32.710 --> 00:29:33.050
Maria Pena: Is it?

452
00:29:33.050 --> 00:29:35.580
Tad Eggleston: Caught by the old man with the pipe.

453
00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:38.330
Tad Eggleston: This is like the weirdest story ever.

454
00:29:38.330 --> 00:29:39.380
Maria Pena: Let's draw ahead.

455
00:29:39.380 --> 00:29:40.210
Tad Eggleston: I mean, not quite.

456
00:29:40.210 --> 00:29:40.600
Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Okay.

457
00:29:40.600 --> 00:29:47.359
Tad Eggleston: Because Beto's gotten pretty fucking weird. This is the weirdest story that's inside

458
00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:51.370
Tad Eggleston: of Palomar continuity. How about that?

459
00:29:51.370 --> 00:29:52.620
Marisol: Yeah, there we go.

460
00:29:52.770 --> 00:29:54.280
Marisol: That's a little letteristic.

461
00:29:54.650 --> 00:29:56.330
Maria Pena: And not a movie.

462
00:29:57.490 --> 00:29:58.090
Marisol: Yeah.

463
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:10.279
Tad Eggleston: But I also, you know, because because we know that Venus likes storytelling and and writing and whatnot. I also wonder if it's Venus telling us a story.

464
00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:14.059
Tad Eggleston: not something that happened.

465
00:30:17.340 --> 00:30:18.110
Marisol: Hoodie.

466
00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:20.920
Tad Eggleston: We got all sorts of thought bubbles.

467
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:22.119
Marisol: Working with people.

468
00:30:23.130 --> 00:30:23.730
Tad Eggleston: What?

469
00:30:23.730 --> 00:30:25.369
Maria Pena: It's a weird what.

470
00:30:26.290 --> 00:30:30.560
Marisol: I was confused by how Petra looks! When did she start working with people in them?

471
00:30:33.510 --> 00:30:34.900
Marisol: Or when did she start working out.

472
00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:40.750
Tad Eggleston: Clearly before this, yeah.

473
00:30:40.750 --> 00:30:43.280
Maria Pena: Because she's definitely fit. Now.

474
00:30:43.280 --> 00:30:49.139
Marisol: I wasn't sure if that was in a previous issue, and I just missed it, or if they just kind of it was an off screen thing.

475
00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:53.020
Tad Eggleston: She definitely at some point becomes a fitness nut.

476
00:30:54.310 --> 00:30:55.440
Maria Pena: And body builder.

477
00:30:56.730 --> 00:30:57.330
Tad Eggleston: Right.

478
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.199
Maria Pena: But she's not quite at her.

479
00:30:59.320 --> 00:31:05.990
Maria Pena: A bodybuilder, you know. A, you know, at the top of her bodybuilder.

480
00:31:07.570 --> 00:31:12.409
Maria Pena: Kind of era there, because she's not super like she became Super Muscley.

481
00:31:12.820 --> 00:31:13.284
Marisol: Right.

482
00:31:14.050 --> 00:31:17.239
Maria Pena: She looks pretty. She still looks pretty soft there.

483
00:31:18.850 --> 00:31:25.209
Maria Pena: although she's the way in one of the panels. She's lifting a couch like nothing and vacuuming underneath.

484
00:31:26.780 --> 00:31:34.890
Maria Pena: This thing with a baby was kind of intriguing about it, appearing the childless women.

485
00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:40.769
Maria Pena: but it only appears, if to block.

486
00:31:40.770 --> 00:31:41.830
Tad Eggleston: Lands, once.

487
00:31:42.580 --> 00:31:45.509
Maria Pena: Yeah, it's like, what is this?

488
00:31:49.010 --> 00:31:56.140
Maria Pena: yeah, it feels so surreal. And that and that fig lady sometimes looks like a vampire. I gotta say.

489
00:31:57.550 --> 00:32:02.929
Marisol: I do like the panel like a couple pages back, where Venus, like 1st follows the baby.

490
00:32:03.210 --> 00:32:05.680
Marisol: and it appears to her, I think she says. I mean like.

491
00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:10.909
Marisol: wait. I'm childless. I'm a kid something like that.

492
00:32:12.150 --> 00:32:19.620
Maria Pena: Yes, the blue Turpe, and the fact that she understands that she knows

493
00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:24.460
Maria Pena: blooter baby appears only to a child's female, so.

494
00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:25.980
Tad Eggleston: Well, she does lots of reading.

495
00:32:27.475 --> 00:32:28.069
Maria Pena: Right!

496
00:32:28.620 --> 00:32:29.240
Maria Pena: Oh.

497
00:32:31.120 --> 00:32:34.219
Tad Eggleston: I mean, she's definitely a studious one.

498
00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:35.950
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.

499
00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:38.239
Tad Eggleston: Like her friend Casimira.

500
00:32:43.380 --> 00:32:44.390
Maria Pena: So.

501
00:32:46.210 --> 00:32:51.602
Marisol: Yeah, this one. This one was weird, little Uncle Fester, baby.

502
00:32:52.540 --> 00:32:58.570
Maria Pena: Yeah, too many Changa Cup makes. I love that.

503
00:33:05.320 --> 00:33:08.549
Maria Pena: And I guess she summoned the kid

504
00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:11.980
Maria Pena: when she 1st kicked that ball at the beginning.

505
00:33:13.820 --> 00:33:17.369
Maria Pena: She kicked. It reminds me of people

506
00:33:18.695 --> 00:33:23.929
Maria Pena: and then it disappeared, and then it, and then the little baby threw it back at her. Later on.

507
00:33:24.850 --> 00:33:29.230
Tad Eggleston: Well, and also she didn't tell anybody about the.

508
00:33:32.420 --> 00:33:35.409
Tad Eggleston: and she didn't tell her friend about the Bluter baby.

509
00:33:35.410 --> 00:33:36.080
Marisol: No.

510
00:33:36.080 --> 00:33:36.990
Maria Pena: No.

511
00:33:37.630 --> 00:33:42.070
Tad Eggleston: And she asked, When do you know when life is fake and when it's not

512
00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:48.939
Tad Eggleston: so, I wonder, I wonder if that whole surreal.

513
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.880
Maria Pena: Whether it's all her imagination or.

514
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.010
Tad Eggleston: I mean she does say all fake, but so exciting.

515
00:33:57.110 --> 00:33:58.030
Maria Pena: Yeah.

516
00:33:58.570 --> 00:34:00.739
Tad Eggleston: All this was all fake.

517
00:34:01.580 --> 00:34:02.380
Maria Pena: Yeah.

518
00:34:08.250 --> 00:34:10.149
Maria Pena: could be everybody.

519
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.400
Maria Pena: Her imagination.

520
00:34:14.770 --> 00:34:15.570
Tad Eggleston: It does have.

521
00:34:15.570 --> 00:34:17.480
Marisol: He does read a lot. So that's not surprising.

522
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.870
Tad Eggleston: Active active imagination.

523
00:34:20.889 --> 00:34:21.679
Marisol: Yes.

524
00:34:22.189 --> 00:34:29.199
Tad Eggleston: I love this beginning of letters from Venus, where? Where she's complaining that she has to handwrite the letter

525
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.999
Tad Eggleston: rather than email or fax.

526
00:34:33.299 --> 00:34:41.089
Tad Eggleston: even though I'm pretty certain she's writing to Casimira. So like, I don't know if she could actually email or Fax

527
00:34:41.359 --> 00:34:42.629
Tad Eggleston: Palomar.

528
00:34:43.897 --> 00:34:44.999
Maria Pena: I don't think.

529
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.040
Tad Eggleston: Wasn't it a big deal.

530
00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:46.980
Maria Pena: When they got there.

531
00:34:46.989 --> 00:34:47.859
Tad Eggleston: Phone.

532
00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:49.080
Maria Pena: I don't think.

533
00:34:49.080 --> 00:34:49.730
Marisol: Yeah.

534
00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:57.380
Maria Pena: Email was a big thing in 95, 96 yet. So it was just the beginning of.

535
00:34:57.630 --> 00:34:59.050
Tad Eggleston: I don't think people had.

536
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:05.009
Maria Pena: Email at home so much. Oh, I guess it could.

537
00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:05.700
Tad Eggleston: I did.

538
00:35:05.950 --> 00:35:09.010
Maria Pena: It was the beginning. 95, 96.

539
00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:09.640
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

540
00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:10.230
Maria Pena: Training.

541
00:35:10.720 --> 00:35:15.140
Tad Eggleston: Think I got my 1st email address in either 95 or 96. I know I had one by.

542
00:35:15.140 --> 00:35:15.710
Tad Eggleston: Oh, I see.

543
00:35:15.710 --> 00:35:16.200
Tad Eggleston: Yes.

544
00:35:17.230 --> 00:35:17.780
Maria Pena: Good.

545
00:35:18.890 --> 00:35:21.849
Maria Pena: Oh, you're just emailing, of course he's still there.

546
00:35:21.850 --> 00:35:22.500
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

547
00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:24.799
Maria Pena: Hmm! That's a shit.

548
00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:29.440
Tad Eggleston: And I was reading from the letter, Maria, I wasn't taking.

549
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.680
Maria Pena: Yeah, you were, yeah, right?

550
00:35:32.680 --> 00:35:39.270
Tad Eggleston: But again Palomar deliberately keeps themselves in the past.

551
00:35:40.470 --> 00:35:42.400
Tad Eggleston: You know, that's been.

552
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:42.760
Marisol: Over.

553
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:50.500
Tad Eggleston: Part of the story is that Palomar kind of refuses to modernize anything so.

554
00:35:50.500 --> 00:35:51.050
Maria Pena: Yeah.

555
00:35:51.510 --> 00:35:59.250
Tad Eggleston: Even assuming other people might be able to email or fax with her. I don't think she was going to get a letter to Palomar that way.

556
00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:03.290
Marisol: No gotta do it. Old school!

557
00:36:03.810 --> 00:36:08.170
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I love Venus's fashion here, too.

558
00:36:10.490 --> 00:36:11.064
Maria Pena: Yeah.

559
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:12.820
Marisol: Cool.

560
00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:17.319
Tad Eggleston: The dress with the lightning dope bolt and the the flat top hat.

561
00:36:19.060 --> 00:36:19.870
Maria Pena: Yes. Correct.

562
00:36:19.870 --> 00:36:22.179
Marisol: Friend who always looks like he's in a little suit.

563
00:36:22.620 --> 00:36:26.610
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, smoking at the diner until Fritz shows up.

564
00:36:26.610 --> 00:36:29.139
Marisol: Yep, what are they like? 12.

565
00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:30.780
Tad Eggleston: If that.

566
00:36:32.370 --> 00:36:33.160
Maria Pena: Yeah.

567
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:43.180
Maria Pena: And I love the kids. Imagination. Yeah, to him. They learn.

568
00:36:43.180 --> 00:36:43.560
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.

569
00:36:43.560 --> 00:36:45.499
Maria Pena: Superhero girls. I love that.

570
00:36:45.500 --> 00:36:52.270
Tad Eggleston: Yep, yep, I like the the green day poster in the back here.

571
00:36:53.230 --> 00:36:53.920
Maria Pena: Yeah.

572
00:36:54.560 --> 00:36:59.289
Tad Eggleston: And the naughty comic that she's reading is one of Gilbert's, or he's reading.

573
00:36:59.870 --> 00:37:00.916
Maria Pena: Oh, okay.

574
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:01.850
Marisol: Really.

575
00:37:01.850 --> 00:37:06.059
Tad Eggleston: Grip grip is. It is one of the dark horse comics that he did.

576
00:37:07.170 --> 00:37:08.240
Marisol: Oh, that's okay.

577
00:37:09.640 --> 00:37:10.350
Maria Pena: Yeah.

578
00:37:11.230 --> 00:37:14.279
Tad Eggleston: Strange, because I think, was the subtitle.

579
00:37:14.950 --> 00:37:20.823
Maria Pena: A strange world in it. I haven't. I never saw those. I I did buy a couple of

580
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:28.891
Maria Pena: Birdlands, you know, just cause it was Plato. And then it was like, Yeah, actually.

581
00:37:29.930 --> 00:37:33.510
Tad Eggleston: I like birdland. It's over the top, but I think it's.

582
00:37:33.510 --> 00:37:38.813
Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was fine, but it was like,

583
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:47.700
Tad Eggleston: Yes, it's it's it's yeah. Grip the strange world of men from comics, luminary and loving rockets. Co-creator

584
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:55.020
Tad Eggleston: Hilbert Hernandez, or Gilberto Hernandez Got to get it right. He taught us.

585
00:37:56.350 --> 00:37:58.030
Maria Pena: Of course.

586
00:37:58.230 --> 00:38:03.700
Tad Eggleston: And of course they got an ad popping up over the text as I read.

587
00:38:05.020 --> 00:38:29.890
Tad Eggleston: comes a mind-bending genre mashup, unlike any other, never before collected grip. The strange world of men returns in an expanded edition with new story pages. When Mike Chang wakes up with no memory and nothing but a lipstick smudge and someone else's suit, and Id. He finds himself thrown into the world of criminal gangs, crime fighters, people who swap skins, and a tiny, one-eyed girl

588
00:38:29.890 --> 00:38:37.890
Tad Eggleston: with bizarre powers discover one of Hernandez's creepiest, sexiest, most action-packed comics, extravaganzas.

589
00:38:40.120 --> 00:38:41.220
Maria Pena: There you go!

590
00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:43.350
Marisol: What a description!

591
00:38:46.640 --> 00:38:47.620
Maria Pena: Hmm.

592
00:38:47.770 --> 00:38:56.210
Tad Eggleston: So. So yeah, I don't remember if any of the covers of Grip looked quite like that. But Grip is is a

593
00:38:56.730 --> 00:38:59.930
Tad Eggleston: a Gilbert comic.

594
00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:07.989
Tad Eggleston: Sassy is not, but I feel like there was another one that was a Gilbert comic

595
00:39:08.450 --> 00:39:11.100
Tad Eggleston: that that popped up later.

596
00:39:12.290 --> 00:39:14.480
Tad Eggleston: Maybe it wasn't this issue.

597
00:39:16.090 --> 00:39:16.790
Maria Pena: Hmm.

598
00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:22.260
Tad Eggleston: Because these all look like they're grip.

599
00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:30.360
Tad Eggleston: But we'll have more experience with this comic shop going forward.

600
00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:43.199
Tad Eggleston: And I I just I love the the garbage and the throwing Muses. This is this is the era that I was super grass.

601
00:39:44.260 --> 00:39:47.540
Tad Eggleston: This is the era that I was getting into music

602
00:39:48.120 --> 00:39:52.080
Tad Eggleston: and then working at a music store. Even so, like.

603
00:39:53.510 --> 00:39:57.569
Tad Eggleston: I remember selling all of these bands to people.

604
00:40:06.080 --> 00:40:12.210
Tad Eggleston: I also think it's cool that Venus is in both into comics, but but into, like the old romance comics.

605
00:40:12.870 --> 00:40:13.710
Maria Pena: Yes.

606
00:40:14.170 --> 00:40:18.539
Tad Eggleston: Like. The 1st time she went to the store she noted that. Oh, there's some

607
00:40:18.890 --> 00:40:22.429
Tad Eggleston: old romance comics that I don't have. I'll have to come back with money.

608
00:40:24.420 --> 00:40:25.290
Maria Pena: Yes.

609
00:40:32.150 --> 00:40:40.160
Maria Pena: it's a it's a very underestimated own genre. I love it some.

610
00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:44.000
Tad Eggleston: Bottom corner here, when

611
00:40:44.520 --> 00:40:54.739
Tad Eggleston: the guys, giving her the copy of the comic in front of her friends, do you think Gilbert deliberately made her friend's face look like a blow-up doll.

612
00:40:55.100 --> 00:40:56.520
Tad Eggleston: or did it just happen to

613
00:40:56.520 --> 00:40:58.970
Tad Eggleston: wind up looking like a blow up time.

614
00:40:58.970 --> 00:41:06.499
Maria Pena: I know right could be anything could be anything.

615
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.290
Maria Pena: I think it's probably deliberate. I don't think it's.

616
00:41:10.290 --> 00:41:20.690
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think so, too. It's just too dead on with the wide open eyes, the perfectly centered pupils and and and

617
00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:24.370
Tad Eggleston: and the perfectly round, no wide open.

618
00:41:25.580 --> 00:41:27.439
Marisol: It's yeah, too funny.

619
00:41:29.970 --> 00:41:34.569
Maria Pena: Yeah, it's ridiculous.

620
00:41:34.570 --> 00:41:37.049
Marisol: List, and it's perfect all at once.

621
00:41:37.370 --> 00:41:37.970
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

622
00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:46.750
Tad Eggleston: Oh, I didn't even notice that that we've got a penis dangling on this page here.

623
00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:48.960
Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, you're over there

624
00:41:54.370 --> 00:42:00.639
Maria Pena: actually, once, now that you've read the the synopsis about the grip, it sounds really interesting.

625
00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:02.220
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we're gonna have to read it right?

626
00:42:02.220 --> 00:42:02.719
Marisol: It's this great.

627
00:42:02.720 --> 00:42:07.860
Tad Eggleston: I know I've read it. It's been a while, though I know I've got it.

628
00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:12.069
Maria Pena: Is it? Is it collected in one of these books, or.

629
00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:17.140
Tad Eggleston: No, it's collected separately because it didn't come out through fanagraphics. It came out through.

630
00:42:17.140 --> 00:42:17.640
Maria Pena: Oh!

631
00:42:17.640 --> 00:42:18.670
Tad Eggleston: Dark horse.

632
00:42:19.730 --> 00:42:20.820
Marisol: Oh!

633
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:30.020
Tad Eggleston: So it's not officially part of this universe, except that it's a comic that they read in this universe.

634
00:42:30.020 --> 00:42:32.520
Maria Pena: So if it's referenced, it's right.

635
00:42:32.520 --> 00:42:33.944
Tad Eggleston: Reference.

636
00:42:35.370 --> 00:42:35.760
Marisol: Perfect.

637
00:42:36.670 --> 00:42:41.981
Maria Pena: I wonder if at the graphics are like damage. He's referencing another company.

638
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.740
Tad Eggleston: I mean they shouldn't be. I am. Fanagraphics has done pretty well, but I still would.

639
00:42:50.060 --> 00:42:56.669
Tad Eggleston: I still wonder if they would have lasted as long as they lasted. If they hadn't had loving love and rockets to like.

640
00:42:57.340 --> 00:43:01.519
Maria Pena: Prop them up through all of those years, and the ups and downs of comics.

641
00:43:02.520 --> 00:43:03.590
Marisol: Oh!

642
00:43:04.230 --> 00:43:14.099
Tad Eggleston: You know. Remember, Birdland actually even came about because they were struggling so much that they decided to do the arrows line because

643
00:43:14.740 --> 00:43:16.800
Tad Eggleston: they, they like

644
00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:28.809
Tad Eggleston: were struggling and and porn comics were a thing at the time, and they didn't want to be quite porn comics, but they also needed to make money, so it's like, let's have like.

645
00:43:28.810 --> 00:43:29.200
Maria Pena: 6.

646
00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:32.580
Tad Eggleston: High End Erotica comics.

647
00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:33.430
Maria Pena: Yeah.

648
00:43:33.430 --> 00:43:33.750
Marisol: Right.

649
00:43:33.750 --> 00:43:34.310
Maria Pena: Yeah.

650
00:43:34.900 --> 00:43:36.249
Marisol: That'll do it.

651
00:43:38.668 --> 00:43:41.810
Tad Eggleston: With with real talent working on them.

652
00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:43.700
Maria Pena: Yeah.

653
00:43:43.700 --> 00:43:44.470
Tad Eggleston: You know.

654
00:43:46.910 --> 00:43:49.879
Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, you know, we all know sex sales.

655
00:43:50.220 --> 00:43:51.689
Maria Pena: Yeah, the thing is, it has.

656
00:43:51.690 --> 00:43:58.160
Maria Pena: So I, the thing that makes most money

657
00:43:58.370 --> 00:44:02.559
Maria Pena: in on the Internet and all sorts of things. Yeah, so.

658
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.300
Tad Eggleston: Well, almost every technology ever started out with like.

659
00:44:07.660 --> 00:44:08.130
Maria Pena: Hmm.

660
00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:09.050
Tad Eggleston: Sex.

661
00:44:09.910 --> 00:44:10.380
Maria Pena: Hmm.

662
00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:16.740
Tad Eggleston: You know so many things that we use for so many different things started out as sex aids.

663
00:44:17.410 --> 00:44:18.530
Maria Pena: Yeah, that's right.

664
00:44:21.505 --> 00:44:22.540
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

665
00:44:22.540 --> 00:44:23.160
Maria Pena: Gingers.

666
00:44:24.380 --> 00:44:24.980
Tad Eggleston: Right.

667
00:44:26.720 --> 00:44:28.190
Marisol: The more you know.

668
00:44:29.563 --> 00:44:30.596
Tad Eggleston: And

669
00:44:31.650 --> 00:44:46.859
Tad Eggleston: and even if they do like the Internet, I don't think was initially designed for for sex. But if it weren't for Internet porn. The Internet would not have exploded and would not have had the funds to explode the way that it did.

670
00:44:49.050 --> 00:44:51.159
Tad Eggleston: I mean porn paid for the Internet.

671
00:44:52.450 --> 00:44:53.010
Maria Pena: Yep.

672
00:44:53.010 --> 00:44:57.059
Marisol: Well, you know what they say. The Internet is for porn that.

673
00:44:57.060 --> 00:45:01.059
Tad Eggleston: That is what they say. I think they even sing a song about it.

674
00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:02.095
Marisol: Yeah.

675
00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:06.340
Marisol: Oh.

676
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.659
Tad Eggleston: Have you never heard that from Avenue Q.

677
00:45:10.310 --> 00:45:11.290
Marisol: -

678
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.590
Tad Eggleston: Such a good song.

679
00:45:12.590 --> 00:45:15.840
Marisol: Literally. The only thing I know about Avenue Q. Is that song.

680
00:45:16.270 --> 00:45:23.479
Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, it's not even the best song in Avenue Q. Probably the best song in Avenue Q is. Everyone's a little bit racist.

681
00:45:24.550 --> 00:45:26.410
Marisol: Oh, my God!

682
00:45:28.410 --> 00:45:31.020
Maria Pena: Okay, I have to look them up because I don't know them.

683
00:45:31.240 --> 00:45:37.860
Tad Eggleston: Avenue Q is like a grown-up version of the muppets.

684
00:45:38.750 --> 00:45:39.220
Maria Pena: Oh!

685
00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:44.010
Tad Eggleston: It's it's supposed to be like Sesame Street for adults. So it's like, it's like.

686
00:45:45.210 --> 00:45:52.830
Tad Eggleston: it's like puppets, puppet monsters and humans living together in the same apartment building, and like.

687
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:54.200
Maria Pena: Yeah.

688
00:45:54.200 --> 00:45:57.370
Tad Eggleston: Another song is my girlfriend, who lives in Canada.

689
00:46:02.130 --> 00:46:03.220
Maria Pena: So it's great.

690
00:46:03.500 --> 00:46:05.220
Tad Eggleston: It is. I love it.

691
00:46:06.380 --> 00:46:10.640
Tad Eggleston: I feel like I'm probably going to wind up listening to Avenue Q. When we're done.

692
00:46:10.910 --> 00:46:11.850
Marisol: Nice.

693
00:46:12.470 --> 00:46:13.630
Maria Pena: Yeah. Totally.

694
00:46:13.640 --> 00:46:15.969
Marisol: I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up.

695
00:46:18.660 --> 00:46:22.080
Maria Pena: Why don't I know about it? I've been out of touch.

696
00:46:23.650 --> 00:46:28.005
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's it's not even like new. It it

697
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:29.640
Maria Pena: Yeah.

698
00:46:29.640 --> 00:46:31.859
Tad Eggleston: Want to say. It came out in.

699
00:46:31.860 --> 00:46:33.079
Maria Pena: 2,003.

700
00:46:33.300 --> 00:46:33.780
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

701
00:46:34.370 --> 00:46:36.270
Marisol: Been out and about for a while.

702
00:46:37.181 --> 00:46:42.339
Tad Eggleston: It looks like you might be able to watch the full hit, musical with the original cast on Youtube.

703
00:46:43.160 --> 00:46:43.670
Marisol: Nice.

704
00:46:45.780 --> 00:46:46.770
Tad Eggleston: I just found that.

705
00:46:46.770 --> 00:46:49.469
Maria Pena: And that's something I will do when I have a minute.

706
00:46:50.150 --> 00:46:51.060
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

707
00:46:51.060 --> 00:47:03.540
Maria Pena: Or 20 min, or however long it is alright cool. Oh, yep, of the just go to.

708
00:47:03.540 --> 00:47:05.979
Tad Eggleston: There was an Avenue clue.

709
00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:09.540
Marisol: But said.

710
00:47:10.780 --> 00:47:22.389
Tad Eggleston: In the playlist that has the the complete show. It also has a Kate monster in the dressing room with the candlestick. It's Avenue Clue

711
00:47:22.520 --> 00:47:27.729
Tad Eggleston: Avenue Clue Part 2 and Avenue. I'm going to be falling down a rabbit hole later.

712
00:47:27.730 --> 00:47:28.140
Marisol: Yup!

713
00:47:28.550 --> 00:47:29.300
Maria Pena: Yeah.

714
00:47:29.300 --> 00:47:30.900
Marisol: The Avenue Q. Rabbit hole.

715
00:47:31.430 --> 00:47:37.809
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. And I'll put a link on the on the show notes. Cause you know, we've got a

716
00:47:38.620 --> 00:47:41.460
Tad Eggleston: we ought to let other people join our rabbit holes.

717
00:47:41.460 --> 00:47:41.870
Marisol: Right.

718
00:47:42.910 --> 00:47:43.410
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

719
00:47:43.640 --> 00:47:45.999
Marisol: So otherwise, where's the fun in that? Keeping it to yourself?

720
00:47:46.660 --> 00:47:54.150
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, there's there's a whole playlist here that's very nice.

721
00:47:55.270 --> 00:47:56.380
Tad Eggleston: So

722
00:48:00.220 --> 00:48:01.190
Tad Eggleston: cool, cool.

723
00:48:03.113 --> 00:48:07.190
Tad Eggleston: Time for favorite panels. I think.

724
00:48:07.190 --> 00:48:07.900
Marisol: Yes.

725
00:48:09.390 --> 00:48:13.980
Tad Eggleston: So anybody want to volunteer to go first.st

726
00:48:15.770 --> 00:48:16.960
Marisol: Oh, right!

727
00:48:17.657 --> 00:48:19.052
Marisol: That my

728
00:48:20.550 --> 00:48:22.860
Marisol: It's my favorites.

729
00:48:24.080 --> 00:48:27.550
Marisol: Beto panel, I think, would have to be

730
00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:33.700
Marisol: Oh, my God! Which one was it trying to

731
00:48:34.640 --> 00:48:37.819
Marisol: look back at the comic on my phone at the same time.

732
00:48:41.490 --> 00:48:43.130
Marisol: I think it's gotta be that like

733
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:49.269
Marisol: beginning Ish page. I think it's that one where she's like explaining why she kicks the balls.

734
00:48:51.590 --> 00:48:54.659
Marisol: but she sees a lonely ball, and she's just gotta punt it.

735
00:48:56.530 --> 00:48:58.419
Marisol: It's towards the beginning of this, I believe.

736
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:03.490
Tad Eggleston: Lonesome ball mine! Oh, my! Let's see.

737
00:49:06.970 --> 00:49:09.840
Marisol: No, I think it's it's the earlier.

738
00:49:12.010 --> 00:49:13.679
Marisol: I don't remember what page.

739
00:49:15.590 --> 00:49:21.850
Tad Eggleston: Is it? Yeah, lonesome ball all alone. Whenever I see a ball just sitting there, I have to kick it.

740
00:49:22.120 --> 00:49:30.019
Tad Eggleston: Soccer ball, bouncing ball, even a teeny, tiny ball for Jacks. Pow, so the 4 panels!

741
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.590
Tad Eggleston: Yep, I don't know. It just feels so random, but also like.

742
00:49:37.370 --> 00:49:42.589
Marisol: Very much a little kid thing to just, you know, kick a random ball that's out alone by itself.

743
00:49:44.210 --> 00:49:51.709
Marisol: Also, just like how a lot of Venus's internal dialogue is very just, almost word vomiting.

744
00:49:52.340 --> 00:49:52.960
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

745
00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:55.269
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.

746
00:49:59.640 --> 00:50:10.579
Tad Eggleston: Well, and and take the pictures away and read it, and it becomes like

747
00:50:11.650 --> 00:50:14.949
Tad Eggleston: you could read it way the wrong way.

748
00:50:16.090 --> 00:50:21.650
Tad Eggleston: I just realized that as I'm writing, you know 4 panels about lonely balls.

749
00:50:27.490 --> 00:50:29.740
Marisol: We're mature guys. We're mature adults.

750
00:50:30.010 --> 00:50:33.419
Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean Beto brings the best out of us.

751
00:50:33.590 --> 00:50:34.745
Maria Pena: True.

752
00:50:38.870 --> 00:50:42.080
Tad Eggleston: Maria, do you have a favorite Bedo script.

753
00:50:42.080 --> 00:50:50.869
Maria Pena: Yes, I love the the 2, the the superhero girls. Yeah, that Yoshi's imagination.

754
00:50:50.870 --> 00:50:51.220
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

755
00:50:51.430 --> 00:50:57.519
Maria Pena: To of venison. And Fritz, a superhero like

756
00:50:58.150 --> 00:50:59.916
Maria Pena: this sort of it's very

757
00:51:01.811 --> 00:51:08.890
Maria Pena: it's almost like they're so shiny and beautiful. And I mean, it's just a great oh.

758
00:51:09.060 --> 00:51:21.470
Maria Pena: depiction of he's just love it. I think the 2 panels work really well, like him looking at them, and then cut to them, and they look like sort of otherworldly visual

759
00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:23.000
Maria Pena: love that.

760
00:51:26.110 --> 00:51:29.800
Marisol: I did notice that he keeps saying he keeps selling Venus that, like

761
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.239
Marisol: her, mom's so awesome, and her aunt is so awesome.

762
00:51:34.350 --> 00:51:37.350
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, he definitely likes to hang out with with

763
00:51:38.020 --> 00:51:42.690
Tad Eggleston: Venus because he likes being around the beautiful older ladies.

764
00:51:43.990 --> 00:51:46.539
Tad Eggleston: I mean. I think he likes Venus, too.

765
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.400
Tad Eggleston: but he definitely likes being around her family's boo.

766
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.669
Marisol: Oops. Yep, that's a great way to put it.

767
00:51:55.890 --> 00:51:59.380
Tad Eggleston: He definitely has a thing for her family's boobs.

768
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:08.431
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't think there's any other accurate way to put it. We could come up with euphemisms.

769
00:52:09.430 --> 00:52:10.930
Tad Eggleston: But I didn't feel like it

770
00:52:11.170 --> 00:52:16.060
Tad Eggleston: just calling it like it is. He likes being around her family's boobs.

771
00:52:16.240 --> 00:52:17.110
Marisol: Yeah.

772
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:19.990
Maria Pena: Alright.

773
00:52:21.640 --> 00:52:26.810
Tad Eggleston: What do I like from Beto? There's so much good stuff here.

774
00:52:28.270 --> 00:52:29.700
Marisol: We need to wait.

775
00:52:29.700 --> 00:52:30.660
Maria Pena: Yeah, right.

776
00:52:33.560 --> 00:52:34.580
Tad Eggleston: Hmm!

777
00:52:36.680 --> 00:52:40.954
Tad Eggleston: You guys both took good ones. I I could join either one of you.

778
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.970
Tad Eggleston: But don't apologize. It just means that like.

779
00:52:44.970 --> 00:52:45.530
Maria Pena: Yeah.

780
00:52:45.530 --> 00:52:48.210
Tad Eggleston: You got good taste.

781
00:52:51.820 --> 00:52:57.220
Maria Pena: I just go. You know what strike strikes me at the time. That struck me.

782
00:52:57.220 --> 00:53:01.247
Tad Eggleston: I'm I'm going with. Is that a blow up, doll?

783
00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:21.299
Tad Eggleston: Just just cause, you know, particularly with the the magazine, with the crotch right there. It's just.

784
00:53:21.300 --> 00:53:22.050
Marisol: Yup!

785
00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:22.550
Maria Pena: I know.

786
00:53:22.550 --> 00:53:23.260
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

787
00:53:33.460 --> 00:53:39.079
Tad Eggleston: all right, let me open up Penny Century, and let's let's choose some.

788
00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:47.630
Tad Eggleston: It's it's on my page for for Jaime. I I'm going with the the the head.

789
00:53:47.630 --> 00:53:48.760
Maria Pena: Edit page.

790
00:53:48.940 --> 00:53:50.640
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, that's great.

791
00:53:54.050 --> 00:53:58.959
Maria Pena: Yeah. Now, me, I don't know yet.

792
00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:00.960
Maria Pena: I'm I'm looking through.

793
00:54:03.340 --> 00:54:05.429
Maria Pena: Yes, oh, good.

794
00:54:14.080 --> 00:54:17.400
Maria Pena: And I think,

795
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:22.639
Maria Pena: Oh, okay, let's be ready to put my spread up.

796
00:54:26.310 --> 00:54:29.740
Tad Eggleston: I mean there were so many good ones. The wrestling ones are just.

797
00:54:30.670 --> 00:54:37.975
Maria Pena: Yes, I think I'll go with Gina caring show and.

798
00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:44.990
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, that that was definitely one that I thought of after shows correct.

799
00:54:44.990 --> 00:54:45.870
Maria Pena: Joe's face.

800
00:54:45.870 --> 00:54:46.420
Marisol: Yes.

801
00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:49.810
Maria Pena: After after Vicky takes her as yeah.

802
00:54:49.810 --> 00:54:50.650
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

803
00:54:51.410 --> 00:54:53.090
Maria Pena: Yeah, no, it's awesome.

804
00:54:53.380 --> 00:54:58.360
Maria Pena: I think that that'll be my my one. There is so many good panels in the rest.

805
00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:58.930
Tad Eggleston: Yes.

806
00:54:58.930 --> 00:55:05.910
Maria Pena: Sort of the really the big splashy ones, you know the it's very

807
00:55:06.970 --> 00:55:09.640
Maria Pena: They're really beautifully done so.

808
00:55:17.090 --> 00:55:22.449
Maria Pena: But I just love the cartooniness of show. His face and.

809
00:55:22.450 --> 00:55:23.080
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.

810
00:55:23.390 --> 00:55:28.379
Maria Pena: It's just great communication. I love a a panel that communicates.

811
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:30.289
Marisol: Oh, really? Well.

812
00:55:32.150 --> 00:55:37.030
Tad Eggleston: Well, and that she just got her ass kicked. And yet she's like happy.

813
00:55:37.030 --> 00:55:38.490
Maria Pena: She's happy. Yeah.

814
00:55:38.870 --> 00:55:41.310
Tad Eggleston: We put on a good show.

815
00:55:42.380 --> 00:55:49.889
Maria Pena: Yeah, I see her. But she's like, you know, still reeling from the gas kicking. Yeah.

816
00:55:50.830 --> 00:55:53.849
Tad Eggleston: Vicky won, and she's the one that's pissed off.

817
00:55:54.230 --> 00:55:54.880
Marisol: Yep.

818
00:55:55.330 --> 00:55:55.620
Maria Pena: Yeah.

819
00:55:55.910 --> 00:55:59.389
Tad Eggleston: This doubt in your brain. Don't ever wrestle family again.

820
00:56:02.770 --> 00:56:06.029
Maria Pena: Yeah, really, great stuff.

821
00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:09.614
Marisol: I think mine would have to be the full page of

822
00:56:11.060 --> 00:56:14.430
Marisol: so, and Gina's fight where? So I was just

823
00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:16.360
Marisol: looking like she's beating her ass.

824
00:56:24.040 --> 00:56:29.279
Tad Eggleston: So this one or this one.

825
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:30.860
Marisol: No! This one.

826
00:56:32.340 --> 00:56:33.600
Tad Eggleston: Oh, this one! Too far!

827
00:56:36.670 --> 00:56:39.230
Marisol: Not the one that one. Yeah.

828
00:56:39.570 --> 00:56:40.440
Tad Eggleston: Page 12.

829
00:56:40.630 --> 00:56:41.040
Marisol: Yes.

830
00:56:42.970 --> 00:56:43.720
Maria Pena: Yes.

831
00:56:48.560 --> 00:56:48.979
Tad Eggleston: That's a good.

832
00:56:51.380 --> 00:56:55.489
Maria Pena: And I love that. The the bell is ringing in the back. Bing! Bing!

833
00:56:59.790 --> 00:57:00.600
Marisol: Hmm.

834
00:57:00.600 --> 00:57:02.449
Maria Pena: She's like oh, you know.

835
00:57:05.390 --> 00:57:06.416
Tad Eggleston: I think.

836
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.977
Tad Eggleston: Well, Maria, you said you have,

837
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.008
Tad Eggleston: Issue 2 of of

838
00:57:17.560 --> 00:57:18.990
Maria Pena: Yeah. Oh, well, Nelly.

839
00:57:19.570 --> 00:57:21.839
Tad Eggleston: Where? Where does issue? 2 and.

840
00:57:22.990 --> 00:57:34.139
Maria Pena: So issue 2 ends a yeah. Keep going. One more there. Well, no.

841
00:57:34.340 --> 00:57:35.260
Maria Pena: Go back.

842
00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:38.850
Maria Pena: Oh, at the end of that site

843
00:57:38.940 --> 00:57:41.230
Maria Pena: with this girl, whoever this is.

844
00:57:41.890 --> 00:57:42.449
Tad Eggleston: So this one.

845
00:57:43.069 --> 00:57:45.180
Maria Pena: Well, now keep going.

846
00:57:46.970 --> 00:57:53.069
Maria Pena: So one more that one with that no, you went too far.

847
00:57:55.375 --> 00:58:00.700
Maria Pena: Yeah. Show getting those pages are, are those pages reversed?

848
00:58:02.140 --> 00:58:02.590
Tad Eggleston: Don't know.

849
00:58:02.590 --> 00:58:03.160
Maria Pena: Which.

850
00:58:04.060 --> 00:58:05.080
Tad Eggleston: Alright.

851
00:58:05.080 --> 00:58:09.649
Tad Eggleston: Looks like the fight goes until here or no, it keeps going.

852
00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:16.680
Maria Pena: Okay, keep going, and then just stop when you get to where you? Oh, no, okay, that's too far.

853
00:58:18.070 --> 00:58:26.189
Maria Pena: Right? So so it's where show is crouching, and she's punching her.

854
00:58:28.450 --> 00:58:30.360
Tad Eggleston: So it'll be.

855
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:30.910
Maria Pena: So.

856
00:58:31.140 --> 00:58:33.079
Tad Eggleston: Page 46.

857
00:58:33.080 --> 00:58:34.889
Maria Pena: Oh, right there. Yeah.

858
00:58:35.350 --> 00:58:39.590
Tad Eggleston: Page 46 is what we'll go through in Penny century.

859
00:58:39.770 --> 00:58:42.360
Tad Eggleston: And for Luba and her family.

860
00:58:43.250 --> 00:58:43.789
Marisol: And it's good.

861
00:58:43.790 --> 00:58:46.139
Tad Eggleston: To be even more interesting because.

862
00:58:46.140 --> 00:58:46.550
Maria Pena: To you.

863
00:58:48.910 --> 00:58:55.140
Tad Eggleston: We'll definitely do the new adventures of Venus and

864
00:58:57.250 --> 00:59:00.449
Tad Eggleston: I got some more time with Banker science. Another

865
00:59:00.910 --> 00:59:04.010
Tad Eggleston: letters from Venus, life on March.

866
00:59:05.430 --> 00:59:08.600
Maria Pena: And we will see the back covers of these.

867
00:59:08.950 --> 00:59:10.980
Marisol: I gotta turn the catch, so I gotta bound

868
00:59:11.680 --> 00:59:14.180
Marisol: alright. Well, let's say we'll go definitely.

869
00:59:14.180 --> 00:59:21.580
Tad Eggleston: Page 47, and Luba and her family

870
00:59:21.830 --> 00:59:26.909
Tad Eggleston: so 4, 46 in penny century and 47 in Luba and her family.

871
00:59:28.220 --> 00:59:28.930
Maria Pena: Okay.

872
00:59:29.340 --> 00:59:32.390
Tad Eggleston: I'll put that into the notes for.

873
00:59:32.690 --> 00:59:33.986
Maria Pena: Yeah, yes. Thank you.

874
00:59:34.310 --> 00:59:37.510
Tad Eggleston: For next week. Oh, that's so. You're full cover.

875
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:40.890
Maria Pena: The that's the back cover of Bonelly one.

876
00:59:41.330 --> 00:59:46.990
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I will have to track them down. Someday, Maris, I'll have a great.

877
00:59:46.990 --> 00:59:47.879
Marisol: See? Y'all later.

878
00:59:48.340 --> 00:59:49.260
Tad Eggleston: Maria.

879
00:59:49.260 --> 00:59:49.820
Maria Pena: Yeah.

880
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:56.789
Tad Eggleston: For 22 panels. This has been the Love and Rockets Book Club. We will see you after the next page.


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